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Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by wccrawford »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #7
hifromwork wrote: post #5

>It means that more than one percent of the IPv4 real estate on the Internet (and probably much more) is occupied by people and organizations who are either clueless or just do not care how much the rest of us are paying to keep our websites on line There's a significant mental leap here. "I block these IP to conserve my resources, therefore they belong to clueless or malicious organisations". It's wrong in both dire…

>>1-5-2024 >For the love of all that is holy, what is this date format. Most commonly used in the US. 'Cause we gotta show it like we say it . I think.

With dashes? We almost always use slashes here in the US. The only time I see dashes is for ISO format, and that's year-first.

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

I imagine that if this article makes its way onto Hacker News, I will be criticized.

Maybe they will call me naive or compare me to Don Quixote fighting windmills.

Maybe they will call me stupid or paranoid for not using some centralized block list.

Maybe they will object to how I characterize those who employ web-crawling robots.

Ha. He is so wrong. We're going to criticize his nginx config and his use of PHP.

I mean yeah. We'll probably get after that other stuff too but still.

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by jdietrich »

TekMol wrote: post #9

What is the issue they are trying to solve? It seems to be a static site. Bots should cause only a neglible amount of traffic per month. My guess would be less than $1. And aren't there free CDNs for static sites these days? I guess you can just push the whole frontent data (html+assets) into a public git repo, put it behind a github page with custom domain and call it a day?

> What is the issue they are trying to solve?

Apparently, he self-hosts on a Raspberry Pi 3B+. I guess you need to block half the internet if your server has about the same performance as a decade-old smartphone.

It's charming in a way, like someone who daily-drives a classic car.

https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/self-hosters-nightmare...

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by montroser »

TekMol wrote: post #9

What is the issue they are trying to solve? It seems to be a static site. Bots should cause only a neglible amount of traffic per month. My guess would be less than $1. And aren't there free CDNs for static sites these days? I guess you can just push the whole frontent data (html+assets) into a public git repo, put it behind a github page with custom domain and call it a day?

No, this craziness(!) here suggests that it's not a static site:

> "I added hyphens to the opening and closing PHP statements to prevent my web server from interpreting them as code."

It could be a static site, and one could also automate the job that this person spends their precious time doing every day, copying and pasting text (IP addresses) that matches a pattern from one place to another. But they seem content, so...

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by jampekka »

hifromwork wrote: post #5

>It means that more than one percent of the IPv4 real estate on the Internet (and probably much more) is occupied by people and organizations who are either clueless or just do not care how much the rest of us are paying to keep our websites on line There's a significant mental leap here. "I block these IP to conserve my resources, therefore they belong to clueless or malicious organisations". It's wrong in both dire…

I don't think the IP blocking refers to Google, Bing etc. The site has a robots.txt that allows for these. Of course if robots.txt isn't honored, an IP block is in order.

For-profit corporations aren't inherently malicious or benevolent. They are legal structures that maximize return on capital without moral judgement or care about what it does to others. A bit like Cthulhu.

https://cheapskatesguide.org/robots.txt

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by monkeynotes »

hifromwork wrote: post #5

>It means that more than one percent of the IPv4 real estate on the Internet (and probably much more) is occupied by people and organizations who are either clueless or just do not care how much the rest of us are paying to keep our websites on line There's a significant mental leap here. "I block these IP to conserve my resources, therefore they belong to clueless or malicious organisations". It's wrong in both dire…

Don't bots also get covertly installed on regular folks machines? And those machines will be running from domestic ISP IP address blocks which are commonly shared/cycled between the ISP's customers. Block those and you are blocking legit customers.

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by D13Fd »

wccrawford wrote: post #11
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>1-5-2024 >For the love of all that is holy, what is this date format. Most commonly used in the US. 'Cause we gotta show it like we say it . I think.

With dashes? We almost always use slashes here in the US. The only time I see dashes is for ISO format, and that's year-first.

Yes. It’s less common but looks unremarkable to me.

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by mrb »

hifromwork wrote: post #5

>It means that more than one percent of the IPv4 real estate on the Internet (and probably much more) is occupied by people and organizations who are either clueless or just do not care how much the rest of us are paying to keep our websites on line There's a significant mental leap here. "I block these IP to conserve my resources, therefore they belong to clueless or malicious organisations". It's wrong in both dire…

"the IP may be renewed every day or every hour)"

What a coincidence! Right now from my phone on my carrier's network while traveling in the UK I am unable to reach https://cheapskatesguide.org My phone's IP address is likely on this guy's blacklist of 56M addresses. So I am forever going to remember whatever service this website provides may be arbitrarily unavailable unless I'm on a know good IP address. Overly aggressive blacklists like this are lame, make you lose customers, and go against the Internet's fundamental principle which is about the ability to exchange information with anyone in the world.

Re: Now Blocking 56,037,235 IP Addresses, and Counting

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Post by [deleted] »

hifromwork wrote: post #5

>It means that more than one percent of the IPv4 real estate on the Internet (and probably much more) is occupied by people and organizations who are either clueless or just do not care how much the rest of us are paying to keep our websites on line There's a significant mental leap here. "I block these IP to conserve my resources, therefore they belong to clueless or malicious organisations". It's wrong in both dire…

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