It seems that Apple deceived Masimo that they are interested in collaborating, and then proceeded to poach Masimo's technical people to basically steal their technology.
Apple appeals US ban on Apple Watch
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#12They want a stay so the courts have time to make a decision, but last I heard from Masimo's CEO they haven't even come to the table to make a deal outside of court. Why should good faith be extended to these thieves who are acting entitled to this technology even now and show no remorse or contrition? If they worked with Masimo they could develop an accurate FDA approved health sensor, but they want to sell their cus…
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#13USITC and exclusion orders are rendered void if everything was made domestically You can limit patent holders options by bringing supply chain here Just another incentive Hey and we wont have to play geopolitical football with random conflicts around the world just so Taiwan feels safe, for now. We could ignore them all and let some other countries pick up the slack if anybody actually cares to misappropriate their r…
Correct. Companies want to offshore their stuff then want protection from the US gov paid for via us citizens.
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#14Here [1] is the CEO of Masimo (a public company, making medical devices for decades) It seems that Apple deceived Masimo that they are interested in collaborating, and then proceeded to poach Masimo's technical people to basically steal their technology. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1o8EoW-Eg
Could they have spoken to Masimo, determined that their asking price for the technology is unreasonable, the patents are not very defensible, Apple could develop it internally for much cheaper, and finally decide to also pay Masimo's employees more to increase development speed?
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#15Here [1] is the CEO of Masimo (a public company, making medical devices for decades) It seems that Apple deceived Masimo that they are interested in collaborating, and then proceeded to poach Masimo's technical people to basically steal their technology. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1o8EoW-Eg
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Re: Apple appeals US ban on Apple Watch
#16Here [1] is the CEO of Masimo (a public company, making medical devices for decades) It seems that Apple deceived Masimo that they are interested in collaborating, and then proceeded to poach Masimo's technical people to basically steal their technology. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1o8EoW-Eg
Is poaching talent illegal? I thought tech employees have successfully sued big tech companies for anti-poaching policies many years ago? Could they have spoken to Masimo, determined that their asking price for the technology is unreasonable, the patents are not very defensible, Apple could develop it internally for much cheaper, and finally decide to also pay Masimo's employees more to increase development speed?
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#17They want a stay so the courts have time to make a decision, but last I heard from Masimo's CEO they haven't even come to the table to make a deal outside of court. Why should good faith be extended to these thieves who are acting entitled to this technology even now and show no remorse or contrition? If they worked with Masimo they could develop an accurate FDA approved health sensor, but they want to sell their cus…
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#18They want a stay so the courts have time to make a decision, but last I heard from Masimo's CEO they haven't even come to the table to make a deal outside of court. Why should good faith be extended to these thieves who are acting entitled to this technology even now and show no remorse or contrition? If they worked with Masimo they could develop an accurate FDA approved health sensor, but they want to sell their cus…
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Regarding the moral inconsistency, if we're talking about legitimately held intellectual property, I have a different attitude depending on if the powerful is taking from the disadvantaged, or the disadvantaged is taking from the powerful. My attitude towards Apple's industrial espionage of IBM back in the day is different than my attitude towards their industrial espionage of Masimo here. To bring up other contemporary examples, I support sci-hub and still consider XQC to be deplorable for infringing on the IP of poorer creators without due compensation. I tend to call the powerless infringers, and the powerful thieves.
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#19Apple must license tens of thousands of patents for their products. What is so special about not paying for these? Is this dispute even about the patents at this point or just some kind of feud with Masimo?
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#20They want a stay so the courts have time to make a decision, but last I heard from Masimo's CEO they haven't even come to the table to make a deal outside of court. Why should good faith be extended to these thieves who are acting entitled to this technology even now and show no remorse or contrition? If they worked with Masimo they could develop an accurate FDA approved health sensor, but they want to sell their cus…
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