Rich Hickey's Sermons On The Mount changed my life as a programmer. 'Trouble is I can't look at OOP anymore without wanting to throw-up.
I can't seem to find a "Sermons On The Mount" talk. Do you have a link?
Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
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Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#12This great talk is a pet peeve inducer, because after watching it you will start noticing how often the word "simple" is still used as a platitude in programming circles.
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never use clojure directly in any production work, but every one of his talks have influenced a ton of my programming in other languages. I'm a bit sad he hasn't had any recent talks. Feels like they've exhausted the journey, like there's not much else to extract from the clojure mindset even though it feels like there's a lot more there.
He talked at clojure conj 2023, something like 'design, in practice'. Another great one. I think there was a gap in his keynotes because of covid. Also, it's very hard to write/talk about such profound ideas reliably every year- they just don't show up that often.
"Design in Practice" by Rich Hickey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5QF2HjHLSE
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#14This great talk is a pet peeve inducer, because after watching it you will start noticing how often the word "simple" is still used as a platitude in programming circles.
My pet peeve is how many articles use the word simple, and immediately after refer to this talk.
It's a great talk, but it's like nobody is allowed to say "simple" anymore without mentioning Rich Hickey.
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#15Rich Hickey's Sermons On The Mount changed my life as a programmer. 'Trouble is I can't look at OOP anymore without wanting to throw-up.
I can't seem to find a "Sermons On The Mount" talk. Do you have a link?
I think he's just referring to all his classic talks, e.g. this one, Are We There Yet, Hammock-driven development, etc.
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#16This great talk is a pet peeve inducer, because after watching it you will start noticing how often the word "simple" is still used as a platitude in programming circles.
My pet peeve is how many articles use the word simple, and immediately after refer to this talk. It's a great talk, but it's like nobody is allowed to say "simple" anymore without mentioning Rich Hickey.
When it comes down to it, Hickey's talk does not even need to be referenced. The core of the peeve is that when the millionth "X is a simple library/tool/language for Y-ing" pitch is made, the question should be: On what OBJECTIVE basis is this simpler than the alternatives? (Because everyone thinks their own polished creations or preferred techniques are "simple" and so the word as typically used in pitches is close to meaningless).
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#17Ooh, this time of year when engineers finely get some time to dig into longer tech talks.
I remember watching the original "clojure" talks during Christmas break too.
At least it's a found memory that I keep, as opposed to all the troubles getting a somehow functioning clojure dev environment set up back in the day... For all my whining, it has actually got better nowadays, although I still don't know if it's acceptable to use lein as opposed to boot as opposed to deps.edn as opposed to [insert tool].
I don't think I'll ever professionally work on a things where the costs of clojure (training / mental reshaping / startup performances / etc...) will be worth the benefits (using a map of tuple to sets of immutable records and solve a gnarly problem in 10 lines and 50 parens.)
But as other said, the sermons _do_ change how you program in any language.
(I just wish I understood what in meant in "Effective Programs" by "typos are not important". They are, aren't they ? A typo is a runtime error begging to occur during the demo, how is that "not important" ? Never mind.)
I would advise to immediately go watch anything from Muratori or Blow to get the exact opposite perspective, pounder the fact that they are _both_ right and wrong in their own ways.
And go back to writing typescript like everyone.
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#18This great talk is a pet peeve inducer, because after watching it you will start noticing how often the word "simple" is still used as a platitude in programming circles.
My pet peeve is how many articles use the word simple, and immediately after refer to this talk. It's a great talk, but it's like nobody is allowed to say "simple" anymore without mentioning Rich Hickey.
Actually its incredibly simple.
See, I just did it and didn't have to mention Rich Hickey.
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#19This great talk is a pet peeve inducer, because after watching it you will start noticing how often the word "simple" is still used as a platitude in programming circles.
At least "simple" tries to say something - even if it's completely subjective.
Far worse is "pragmatic".
Re: Simple Made Easy (2011) [video]
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
He talked at clojure conj 2023, something like 'design, in practice'. Another great one. I think there was a gap in his keynotes because of covid. Also, it's very hard to write/talk about such profound ideas reliably every year- they just don't show up that often.
"Design in Practice" by Rich Hickey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5QF2HjHLSE
Thank you, this is a great talk! Even though I am not using clojure, Rich Hickey is one of my favorite speakers.