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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by m463 »

naz wrote: post #6

As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

All this should be recommended in the UI.

The car DOES have maintenance needs.

Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge.

there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery.

Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or windshield wipers or fluid and the UI should keep track of it. Even if it just says "last replaced 10/11/12 @ 23,456 miles" or "inspected 11/12/13" or something.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by ketkev »

t0mas88 wrote: post #7
adriancr wrote: post #2

How does this work in germany? In a neighboring country I take my car to the service to do a quick maintenance + the official yearly thing. This means break pads and any issues are fixed before and car would never fail an official check. Is that not a thing for tesla?, is the driver supposed to know when to replace everything?, are sensors that good?

Tesla's roll out of the factory with things out of limits all the time. Headlights being a big thing, not adjusted within the rules for the TUV (or Dutch APK) even when the car is brand new.

I swear that most model 3's I see in Europe have their headlights adjusted up so high that they're still looking for German aircraft. It's blinding.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by hef19898 »

Hamuko wrote: post #3
adriancr wrote: post #2

How does this work in germany? In a neighboring country I take my car to the service to do a quick maintenance + the official yearly thing. This means break pads and any issues are fixed before and car would never fail an official check. Is that not a thing for tesla?, is the driver supposed to know when to replace everything?, are sensors that good?

Isn't the "no services" one of the things that all Tesla owners advertise?

Oh yes, maintenance on condition! Great concept, but it requires regular inspection to appraise said condition. Otherwise it is just "until failure".

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by richx »

RomanAlexander wrote: post #8
naz wrote: post #6

As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

did they remove the service plan? My Model S came with a 4 year service plan where every quarter they would flush the coolant, filters, etc

Seems so, the official owners manual foresees some maintenance, but there is no regular service schedule.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-E95DAAD...

Edit: interestingly, the German link seems to show something else: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/de_us/GUID-E95DAAD...

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by hef19898 »

lnsru wrote: post #10
naz wrote: post #6

As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

What prohibits you from going to the service center yearly or every 10k miles?

Assuming this, no scheduled services, is Tesla policy, it is very well possible that Tesla doesn't have task lists in place for said checks. Which would be bad...

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by speedgoose »

naz wrote: post #6

As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

You could go to a third party garage. The mandatory state inspections will detect the safety issues too.

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Post by hef19898 »

isoprophlex wrote: post #9

Tesla: "We move fast and don't repair things if they break because there are no service centers" I don't think a messed up suspension can be fixed with an OTA update

>> I don't think a messed up suspension can be fixed with an OTA update

But one can sure try, right? Right?

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by lnsru »

hef19898 wrote: post #15
lnsru wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What prohibits you from going to the service center yearly or every 10k miles?

Assuming this, no scheduled services, is Tesla policy, it is very well possible that Tesla doesn't have task lists in place for said checks. Which would be bad...

Tesla has some recommendations in user manual. I almost bought model y. So I saw, that there is recommendation to check brakes after winter and salty roads or something alike. I also guess, that any other repair shop could do generic check as well. Teslas have brakes, suspensions, brake fluids and many other “normal” parts.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by sitharus »

RomanAlexander wrote: post #8
naz wrote: post #6

As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

did they remove the service plan? My Model S came with a 4 year service plan where every quarter they would flush the coolant, filters, etc

Every quarter? Even when driving a 15 year old combustion car I have never had a car that needed to go for service that often! My new EV has a two-year service interval to check the coolant and brakes.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by sergiosgc »

m463 wrote: post #11
naz wrote: post #6

As a Model Y owner, the lack of a service interval is really annoying. I want to pay Tesla to make sure my car stays safe and reliable, but I can't.

All this should be recommended in the UI. The car DOES have maintenance needs. Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge. there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery. Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or w…

It should be possible to equip the car with enough sensors to detect or predict maintenance needs. Tesla's approach is, however, still incomplete. The powertrain is sensored enough, suspension/brakes/tires aren't.
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