People aren't posting on social media as much
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Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#12I agree largely with all of the posts here, but the nagging concern in the back of my mind is always: isn't social media still valuable for businesses? Or rather, are you leaving customers "on the table" by ignoring it? Maybe less so for B2B or "serious" things like WSJ, but for B2C it still sounds like a serious contender. For your dropshipping doohickies or crafted niche fandom doodads, where else do you go? Etsy a…
I have not read the article but it is my understanding that reach in classic social medias s
(Fb, Instagram, Twitter) has become incredibly bad.
E.g. a post on Instagram would previously reach 40% of your followers and is now closer to 5%. So the value for a business also went down dramatically.
You might as well just invest in advertisement rather than a social presence beyond the minimum.
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#13I agree largely with all of the posts here, but the nagging concern in the back of my mind is always: isn't social media still valuable for businesses? Or rather, are you leaving customers "on the table" by ignoring it? Maybe less so for B2B or "serious" things like WSJ, but for B2C it still sounds like a serious contender. For your dropshipping doohickies or crafted niche fandom doodads, where else do you go? Etsy a…
I have not read the article but it is my understanding that reach in classic social medias s (Fb, Instagram, Twitter) has become incredibly bad. E.g. a post on Instagram would previously reach 40% of your followers and is now closer to 5%. So the value for a business also went down dramatically. You might as well just invest in advertisement rather than a social presence beyond the minimum.
A big problem is that the social media platforms are incentivized to try and keep people on the platform, aka away from external sites where you can sell your services. So your links to where to sell your stuff or whatever is not promoted
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have not read the article but it is my understanding that reach in classic social medias s (Fb, Instagram, Twitter) has become incredibly bad. E.g. a post on Instagram would previously reach 40% of your followers and is now closer to 5%. So the value for a business also went down dramatically. You might as well just invest in advertisement rather than a social presence beyond the minimum.
A big problem is that the social media platforms are incentivized to try and keep people on the platform, aka away from external sites where you can sell your services. So your links to where to sell your stuff or whatever is not promoted
Is a possible other problem that everyone created social media with incredibly diluted messaging. Every brand had to post multiple times a day for things that seemed pretty worthless.
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#15Even disregarding privacy concerns (which you shouldn't!), I stopped posting on social media largely because I'm too argumentative of a person for it. When arguing is limited to people I see in person, it's a somewhat time-boxed and constrained operation. I typically can only argue with one person for N minutes, and eventually both of us get tired of it and we move on with our lives, but there's always someone wrong…
Funny. I was actually able to control myself in Facebook/Twitter (I had veeeery few discussions there, even peaceful ones were rare), but the problem was the increasing amount of arguing I was seeing, especially thanks to the algorithmic timeline.
It was making me feel like shit even when I wasn't participating. Even when I stopped liking stuff it was visible that it was fucking with my mental health. Walking away from reading two people arguing completely drains my energy.
Reddit is not that different. I don't have an account and just go there to get updated on my favourite hobby, but even that will show me a lot of people arguing and things getting heated, and it makes me a bit anxious after reading.
Mastodon is going in the same direction IMO. It is a bit of an echo chamber the people I follow (I don't mind this tbh), but 60% of the things that get going are fucking powderkegs where a single disagreement becomes too heated. I've seen people piling on others because of opinions I agree, and vicariously reading makes me feel like shit.
I'm perfectly fine with conflict and with discussions, but it doesn't really work for me when lots of topics are treated as if it was as high-stakes as we do online.
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of the enshittification is a result of the drop in organic content from friends and needing to maintain engagement numbers. It’s a vicious cycle, possibly a death spiral.
I don’t think enshittification entirely explains it. At least for me, social is exhausting because rage bait drives engagement and I’m tired of being angry all the time. It’s 1984 and the Two Minutes Hate. Instagram was a lot more fun when it was just food and travel. Even without algorithmic feeds, the introduction of revenue sharing and sponsorships means that creators would eventually make the same hateful content…
For me IG is still dogs and landscapes, so I'm wondering if perhaps its recommendation algorithm has an inner death spiral where it randomly showed you something that made you angry, then interpreted your reaction as "jinushaun engages more with this than that" and stopped showing you good stuff forever after?
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#17Even disregarding privacy concerns (which you shouldn't!), I stopped posting on social media largely because I'm too argumentative of a person for it. When arguing is limited to people I see in person, it's a somewhat time-boxed and constrained operation. I typically can only argue with one person for N minutes, and eventually both of us get tired of it and we move on with our lives, but there's always someone wrong…
Funny. I was actually able to control myself in Facebook/Twitter (I had veeeery few discussions there, even peaceful ones were rare), but the problem was the increasing amount of arguing I was seeing , especially thanks to the algorithmic timeline. It was making me feel like shit even when I wasn't participating. Even when I stopped liking stuff it was visible that it was fucking with my mental health. Walking away f…
>increasing amount of arguing I was seeing* [on twitter]
I recently created a new account, adding only programming and professional connections, and it's actually quite good! If you don't click on any of the "trending" stuff, it functions like a microblog should: it's a way for me to keep up with the projects and OSS personalities I want to, without the fuss.
I did something similar with YouTube: I simply turned off "watch history". The youtube home page is literally empty, because without data the algorithm offers nothing. (In fairness, there's a big contingency message saying in bold letters "Turn watch history back on? Pretty please?") The only time I see content on youtube is because someone I subscribed to posted something. It's glorious. No more doom scrolling because the content is finite once again. I find that the creators I like (and the comments) have enough references to other content that I don't feel cut off. And there's always search. It's just that default empty screen that seems like the magic sauce.
This is my "middle path", and it seems likely that if it catches on they'll do something to disrupt it. In which case I will truly leave. It would be such a waste though, and why we can't have nice things.
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#18Even disregarding privacy concerns (which you shouldn't!), I stopped posting on social media largely because I'm too argumentative of a person for it. When arguing is limited to people I see in person, it's a somewhat time-boxed and constrained operation. I typically can only argue with one person for N minutes, and eventually both of us get tired of it and we move on with our lives, but there's always someone wrong…
There is great wisdom in Mark Twain's advice to never argue with an idiot.
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#19Even disregarding privacy concerns (which you shouldn't!), I stopped posting on social media largely because I'm too argumentative of a person for it. When arguing is limited to people I see in person, it's a somewhat time-boxed and constrained operation. I typically can only argue with one person for N minutes, and eventually both of us get tired of it and we move on with our lives, but there's always someone wrong…
It can help to practice compassion for strangers and equanimity.
They might be wrong but they are just acting in the way they believe is best, and even if they have some impact it's ultimately just a tiny effect in a vast universe.
Re: People aren't posting on social media as much
#20I often remark to family and friends that the human race wasn't ready for the capacity for instant communication with 'everyone everywhere all at once' but perhaps that was overly pessimistic and we are developing that muscle. Or is the novelty just wearing off and there are movements to other platforms that aren't represented in the article?
we still are exceptionally bad at managing large in-groups (or ostensible in-groups).
discord is a perfect example, you can fairly easily maintain relationships with 10 groups of 50 people, but 500 people is a chore