This reads more like a call for help. And I can't help thinking that their high turnover sounds like a huge drag on productivity if so much of the team is coming up to speed at any given time.
How to survive in a Chinese company
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#12In other words: how bad it is to work in China.
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#13As a parent, the described schedules seem impractical. It would be possible to hold the 8-10pm schedule in my early twenties, and truth be told I did for bursts of time. But this doesn't sound tractable at a mass scale, when do kids get taken care of?
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#14As a parent, the described schedules seem impractical. It would be possible to hold the 8-10pm schedule in my early twenties, and truth be told I did for bursts of time. But this doesn't sound tractable at a mass scale, when do kids get taken care of?
By the grandparents.
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#15Why subject oneself to this though? Every point is negative, borderline Stockholm syndrome-ish and discussing how to “survive”. presumably OP has a reason for enduring said suffering but it’s not really obvious from the post
There is some about that in point 8, starting with
> This all seems harsh and negative but it can be a fantastic ride (even if it’s taxing).
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#16It sounds like they work in a genuinely toxic environment, and utterly exhausting. I get that the Chinese have few options, but why would you voluntarily subject yourself to this level of physical and emotional abuse?
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Re: How to survive in a Chinese company
#18Why subject oneself to this though? Every point is negative, borderline Stockholm syndrome-ish and discussing how to “survive”. presumably OP has a reason for enduring said suffering but it’s not really obvious from the post
Choice in job market is a luxury, not sure if it's only a China thing. But most fresh grads will end up with whichever company who'd hire them in whatever role they offered.
The OP also mentioned the low retention rate, behind that, it means that for young people, they may start in a low pay job, but there will be tremendous amount of chances for new opportunities elsewhere after a few years of work experience. There will be less BS in the interviews, and ~50% of pay raise each time (sounds familiar?). After try and errs, there's a chance you'll find a fair-paying job with reasonable workload and non-toxic workspace, they call it landed (Shàng Àn 上岸), comparing to the endless Sea of Suffering(Kû Hâi 苦海).
They have the hope for the future.
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#19As a parent, the described schedules seem impractical. It would be possible to hold the 8-10pm schedule in my early twenties, and truth be told I did for bursts of time. But this doesn't sound tractable at a mass scale, when do kids get taken care of?
Besides having your grandparents' help as mentioned in a sibling comment, there's an darker side to the this topic: discrimination against women[0], and the people who aren't young and energetic enough[1].
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[0]: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/05/business/china-three-chil...
[1]: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/26/china/35-curse-unemployme...
Re: How to survive in a Chinese company
#20As a parent, the described schedules seem impractical. It would be possible to hold the 8-10pm schedule in my early twenties, and truth be told I did for bursts of time. But this doesn't sound tractable at a mass scale, when do kids get taken care of?
Besides having your grandparents' help as mentioned in a sibling comment, there's an darker side to the this topic: discrimination against women[0], and the people who aren't young and energetic enough[1]. edit: formatting -- [0]: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/05/business/china-three-chil... [1]: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/26/china/35-curse-unemployme...
TBH it already seemed pretty dark without the darker side.