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US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new homes with gas appliances

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Re: US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new homes with gas appliances

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Post by sparrish »

bob1029 wrote: post #3

I just moved from a home with induction range to one with gas range and I feel like I am on crazy pills waiting for anything to happen now. I get that things like extreme control and wok cooking are a bit difficult on induction, but at least it's ~possible. A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware. This isnt only about boiling water quickly. This is about getting a pan hot enoug…

I've never heard of electric being faster at boiling water than gas.

You either have a very poor gas stove or you moved to a much higher elevation where boiling water is just flat-out takes longer.

Re: US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new homes with gas appliances

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Post by ska »

bwb wrote: post #5
vsskanth wrote: post #2

This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a better cooking experience than electric. Induction might be the best, but it's still expensive.

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

> That might be a bit of propaganda

Not really, there are a number of techniques that are harder (some not possible) on electric which has less control and high latency.

But ... it only matters if you are going to use such techniques.

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Post by andrewxdiamond »

bob1029 wrote: post #3

I just moved from a home with induction range to one with gas range and I feel like I am on crazy pills waiting for anything to happen now. I get that things like extreme control and wok cooking are a bit difficult on induction, but at least it's ~possible. A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware. This isnt only about boiling water quickly. This is about getting a pan hot enoug…

For water heating specifically, get an electric kettle. They are optimized for boiling water, much faster than gas OR induction on a stove.

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Post by jeffbee »

abfan1127 wrote: post #7

I won't speak to cooking. But, gas central air heaters are much cheaper to operate than heat pumps in Phoenix, AZ. I wish it wasn't so environmentally speaking. But from a cost point of view, its better to use natural gas than electricity.

That's just a policy choice. There's no law of physics that makes an electric heat pump cost more.

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Post by Schiendelman »

sparrish wrote: post #11
bob1029 wrote: post #3

I just moved from a home with induction range to one with gas range and I feel like I am on crazy pills waiting for anything to happen now. I get that things like extreme control and wok cooking are a bit difficult on induction, but at least it's ~possible. A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware. This isnt only about boiling water quickly. This is about getting a pan hot enoug…

I've never heard of electric being faster at boiling water than gas. You either have a very poor gas stove or you moved to a much higher elevation where boiling water is just flat-out takes longer.

I think you may not have used induction.

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Post by vsskanth »

bwb wrote: post #5
vsskanth wrote: post #2

This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a better cooking experience than electric. Induction might be the best, but it's still expensive.

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

I don't know about your specific circumstances but for Indian cooking, gas is just miles ahead. We have electric at home, It just takes forever to cook anything and it's hard to control the heat. Our friends with gas cooktops get done in half the time.

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Post by ghaff »

hasty_pudding wrote: post #9
bob1029 wrote: post #3

I just moved from a home with induction range to one with gas range and I feel like I am on crazy pills waiting for anything to happen now. I get that things like extreme control and wok cooking are a bit difficult on induction, but at least it's ~possible. A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware. This isnt only about boiling water quickly. This is about getting a pan hot enoug…

Your place may have an extremely underpowered gas stove? Tons of places do stir fry on gas. Probably the norm I would say. If you go to a hibachi grill, they're doing it right out in the open.

I have a good gas (propane) stove top and the big burner definitely is good for stir-fry. I'm sure many cheaper gas stoves are not as good.

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Post by TheBlight »

andrewxdiamond wrote: post #13
bob1029 wrote: post #3

I just moved from a home with induction range to one with gas range and I feel like I am on crazy pills waiting for anything to happen now. I get that things like extreme control and wok cooking are a bit difficult on induction, but at least it's ~possible. A consumer gas range simply doesnt put enough effective power into the cookware. This isnt only about boiling water quickly. This is about getting a pan hot enoug…

For water heating specifically, get an electric kettle. They are optimized for boiling water, much faster than gas OR induction on a stove.

Microwave works pretty good too.

Re: US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new homes with gas appliances

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Post by NewJazz »

vsskanth wrote: post #16
bwb wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

I don't know about your specific circumstances but for Indian cooking, gas is just miles ahead. We have electric at home, It just takes forever to cook anything and it's hard to control the heat. Our friends with gas cooktops get done in half the time.

Are you using an induction stovetop?

Re: US utility firms offer builders cash/trips to fit new homes with gas appliances

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Post by encoderer »

bwb wrote: post #5
vsskanth wrote: post #2

This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a better cooking experience than electric. Induction might be the best, but it's still expensive.

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

Cooking food over an open flame has been the standard since prehistoric times.

Possibly the idea that a hot electric coil is just as good is the propaganda?

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