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Re: No star, No fix

#11

I agree with this. If you use some software (and its author cares about internet points), you can at least give it that star. It's better than paying with money, and if you are requesting a feature it makes even more sense to pay with a single click of a mouse. Show some appreciation, people

It seems ludicrous to have to star a project for lacking a feature you need. What's next, starring projects for having glaring security problems?

Re: No star, No fix

#12
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I wonder if this goes against github's "no automated starring" policy [0] (that people have been banned for in the past). Maybe "coordinated inauthentic activity" ? Either way, feels sleazy. [0] https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/acceptable-use-polici...

I fail to see a reason where it would be a violation because of the following reasons:

1) it's a response to a user's request, i.e., not initiated by the repo author

2) it depends on consensus of the user.

3) it's not automated (most of the items from the policy are related to automation).

4) the repo author has no obligation whatsoever of maintaining the project. He is not paid or forced to do it.

5) if the user really wants to apply this change or disagrees with this practice, he/she can always fork it.

That said, I understand that it may still not feel "fair" compared to other projects that don't follow this practice. Or the feeling of "wanting to help but you're asked to do some things first".

Companies already do that to accept your pull requests though [0], which takes way longer than giving a star - and I didn't see a complaint about it on HN

[0] https://github.com/google/eddystone/issues/258

Re: No star, No fix

#13
Reminds me of how how people give trivial stuff away for "free" in online marketplaces, but ask to be paid with a good review before handing it over. Do that a few hundred times and whoa, you're an amazingly rated seller!

Re: No star, No fix

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I wonder if this goes against github's "no automated starring" policy [0] (that people have been banned for in the past). Maybe "coordinated inauthentic activity" ? Either way, feels sleazy. [0] https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/acceptable-use-polici...

I fail to see a reason where it would be a violation because of the following reasons: 1) it's a response to a user's request, i.e., not initiated by the repo author 2) it depends on consensus of the user. 3) it's not automated (most of the items from the policy are related to automation). 4) the repo author has no obligation whatsoever of maintaining the project. He is not paid or forced to do it. 5) if the user rea…

It is at least partially automated. The issue was closed by a bot which requires a star to re-open.

Re: No star, No fix

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Why the negative sentiment against this? It doesn't cost people anything to star a project. Whether it is a PR or not, the maintainer still had to review and maintain the code and that is time they will spend. The more stars a project gets, the more support it gets. It's not like you pay for stars or it is burdensome to click on the star button.

How do toy magically get more support if all projects simply demand more stars and get them?

If you like it starting it makes sense, if you don't why open issues and do pr's?

Re: No star, No fix

#16
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I wonder if this goes against github's "no automated starring" policy [0] (that people have been banned for in the past). Maybe "coordinated inauthentic activity" ? Either way, feels sleazy. [0] https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/acceptable-use-polici...

I fail to see a reason where it would be a violation because of the following reasons: 1) it's a response to a user's request, i.e., not initiated by the repo author 2) it depends on consensus of the user. 3) it's not automated (most of the items from the policy are related to automation). 4) the repo author has no obligation whatsoever of maintaining the project. He is not paid or forced to do it. 5) if the user rea…

There's a submission regarding CLAs nearly every month. But complains regarding them is not for the time it takes to sign one. Similarly complains about the practice here aren't for the time it takes to star a repo.

Re: No star, No fix

#17
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Why the negative sentiment against this? It doesn't cost people anything to star a project. Whether it is a PR or not, the maintainer still had to review and maintain the code and that is time they will spend. The more stars a project gets, the more support it gets. It's not like you pay for stars or it is burdensome to click on the star button.

Because it artificially bloats the star count so that it no longer represents how many people are interested in the project.... Although if you've filed an issue you kind of are invested already

My point exactly, if you don't think it's worth starring why even use it let along issues and pr's.

If GH had levels of stars it might have be been better.

Can't projects say they'll only support people who really like the project or are people thinking OSS comes with entitlements for unpaying users.

Re: No star, No fix

#18
post #7

Why the negative sentiment against this? It doesn't cost people anything to star a project. Whether it is a PR or not, the maintainer still had to review and maintain the code and that is time they will spend. The more stars a project gets, the more support it gets. It's not like you pay for stars or it is burdensome to click on the star button.

Because people don't like to drink a verification cans.

> It's not like you pay for stars or it is burdensome to click on the star button.

Imagine being allowed to comment here only after [starring] something. It's not like you pay for [stars] or it is burdensome to click on the [star] button.

Re: No star, No fix

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do toy magically get more support if all projects simply demand more stars and get them?

If you like it starting it makes sense, if you don't why open issues and do pr's?

There are trivial responses to your question, but you didn't address the issue I raised

Re: No star, No fix

#20
I'm of two minds on this:

1) Good: This adds "just" a touch of friction to things. You can't just do a drive-by on the project like so many thanks to ill-advised "social good" corporate review policies (screw you, Google, for pioneering that). You have to at least star it which at least signifies some level of commitment, identity, and existence.

2) Bad: This causes an inflation war between those projects that do this organically and those that force people to star them. It squashes the signal in the idea of stars.

Github is going to have to remove identity from the stars if they want to stop this from descending into chaos.

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