Google Will Stop Telling Law Enforcement Which Users Were Near a Crime
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#12Maybe a bit contrarian but unless law enforcement is abusing this I think it's good for Google to share this info. I want to live in a society where criminals are caught.
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#13Maybe a bit contrarian but unless law enforcement is abusing this I think it's good for Google to share this info. I want to live in a society where criminals are caught.
With everyone carrying a phone things are getting increasingly silly.
The convincing part to me is the bad guys increasingly sophisticated use of technology. They know exactly where the victims are 24/7 (if they want to)
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#14Unfortunately, I'm fairly sure this wouldn't really help given that service providers still maintain records of which phones connected to which towers. It's still a nice change though, and I like that they allow users to still send encrypted backups of their location history to the cloud.
Yup. Leave your phone at home if you're gonna commit a crime.
Re: Google Will Stop Telling Law Enforcement Which Users Were Near a Crime
#15Unfortunately, I'm fairly sure this wouldn't really help given that service providers still maintain records of which phones connected to which towers. It's still a nice change though, and I like that they allow users to still send encrypted backups of their location history to the cloud.
Yup. Leave your phone at home if you're gonna commit a crime.
I’m worried about others in my vicinity committing crimes.
Should I leave my phone at home whenever I get a spidy sense that a criminal will be crime-ing within a 100 yards of me?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can’t localize that!
if you believe 90s movies you should be able to speak for less than 60 seconds before it's detected
This was true before digital switches were ubiquitous. To trace a call that was routed through mechanical switches, actual people would have to spring into action and actually trace the circuit through the selectors and trunks and whatnot.
A surprising number of places were still served by these ancient switches into the late 80s. Maybe even early 90s?
Re: Google Will Stop Telling Law Enforcement Which Users Were Near a Crime
#17Maybe a bit contrarian but unless law enforcement is abusing this I think it's good for Google to share this info. I want to live in a society where criminals are caught.
You would like China then.
In the US and most of the west, governments derive their power from the governed, which means their ability to investigate crime is at the consent of the governed as well. It is due to the law not catching up to technology that google has been allowed to share that information.
If cops need information to catch criminals they should get warrants. No company can refuse such a request so long as a magistrate reviews it as being a lawful pursuit of justice.
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#18Tbh with 5G around, there is no need for Google's data. Carriers can localize phones well enough already now.
Gen-z/alpha will lament at millenials screwing them over with crap like this. Same as how millenials lament about boomers and the state of the economy.
The solution is legal not tech. 5G and wifi6 may allow the government to listen in and watch everything we do but it is the law that can prevent them from doing that. Even in public, there is an expectation of privacy. If you look up a woman's skirt, you can't use "she was in public" as an excuse, it's still a crime because there was an expectation of privacy.
Anyone should be allowed to view and record public activities but not in a way that unveils information explicitly hidden from the public. If you have x-ray vision like superman for example, it would be illegal to see under people's cloths or to read information in the journal in their pocket. Now replace x-ray vision with 5G/wifi6 radio.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup. Leave your phone at home if you're gonna commit a crime.
I’m worried about others in my vicinity committing crimes. Should I leave my phone at home whenever I get a spidy sense that a criminal will be crime-ing within a 100 yards of me?
Unless you have a stronger sense that a criminal will be crime-ing within a 100 yards of your home where you left your phone