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California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by mistrial9 »

kornhole wrote: post #7

I assume the app will attempt to tie my device identifiers such as IMEI, phone number, and advertiser ID to my government digital ID. Then they can tie it to other ID's such as Facebook or other app ID's on the device that also read device identifiers. It probably would fail to install on my Graphene phone that treats all apps as hostile by blocking them from reading any device identifiers. I would rather wait with t…

Californian here - absolutely agree that this is the fiftieth extension of 'government now in surveillance capitalism biz' .. approved by Newsom + company

Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by [deleted] »

kornhole wrote: post #7

I assume the app will attempt to tie my device identifiers such as IMEI, phone number, and advertiser ID to my government digital ID. Then they can tie it to other ID's such as Facebook or other app ID's on the device that also read device identifiers. It probably would fail to install on my Graphene phone that treats all apps as hostile by blocking them from reading any device identifiers. I would rather wait with t…

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Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by phpisthebest »

noodlesUK wrote: post #4

I’m enthusiastic about the longer term future of solutions like this. Current IDs can’t do data minimization very easily, but phone-based solutions can. You should be able to get a permission prompt saying “drug store wants to know your >18/21 status” and not hand over any other data. Of course this requires regulatory oversight to ensure that the stores don’t just ask for all the perms available. However, does this…

Your optimism defies the historical record on how these advances tend to play out in reality

Hint, they almost never increase privacy

Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by phpisthebest »

tomohelix wrote: post #9
bigmattystyles wrote: post #2

Obligatory - do not hand your unlocked phone over to a cop

Unfortunately, people who are aware of this won't even use this thing anyway and many who are exploitable would be tricked into giving their phone to the police. I hate how police is legally allowed to lie and psychologically trick/pressure people into things they would not normally do. It makes me distrust and question everything they do and say, i.e. being uncooperative to them. Which they then can use as an excuse…

I would not have a problem with police legally lying, if it was legal for me to lie in response.

The single biggest problem in modern society is a dual rules we have for government agents vs the population at large, this can not stand in a free society. We all either have the same rules or we have tyranny there is no 3rd option

Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by vore »

kornhole wrote: post #7

I assume the app will attempt to tie my device identifiers such as IMEI, phone number, and advertiser ID to my government digital ID. Then they can tie it to other ID's such as Facebook or other app ID's on the device that also read device identifiers. It probably would fail to install on my Graphene phone that treats all apps as hostile by blocking them from reading any device identifiers. I would rather wait with t…

Speculating like this with no evidence just to peacock to everyone that you're privacy conscious is not actually helpful for anyone.

Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by almost_usual »

Xeoncross wrote: post #5
noodlesUK wrote: post #4

I’m enthusiastic about the longer term future of solutions like this. Current IDs can’t do data minimization very easily, but phone-based solutions can. You should be able to get a permission prompt saying “drug store wants to know your >18/21 status” and not hand over any other data. Of course this requires regulatory oversight to ensure that the stores don’t just ask for all the perms available. However, does this…

It also ensures that in the future all law enforcement and government agencies will have access to your personal device because "everyone's doing it" and why would you be the weird person that doesn't want to unlock it and hand it over for them to scan and verify everything? After all, it's simple, safe and easy!

Unless the government starts buying everyone smart phones an id card will be fine.

Re: California DMV Digital ID Pilot Program

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Post by brookst »

kornhole wrote: post #7

I assume the app will attempt to tie my device identifiers such as IMEI, phone number, and advertiser ID to my government digital ID. Then they can tie it to other ID's such as Facebook or other app ID's on the device that also read device identifiers. It probably would fail to install on my Graphene phone that treats all apps as hostile by blocking them from reading any device identifiers. I would rather wait with t…

iOS apps also can’t get device identifiers.

Besides, wariness is wise but assumptions are not.

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