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I Can't Sleep

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Killing in general is wrong.

Great, seems we agree. So it should stop and we should speak up about it, right?

I have no problem with people speaking up just with people that want to be edgy and write a sob story when a opportunity arises. As I said you deciding to speak up now but not about other conflicts says more about you than you think. Do you really not sleep?

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This is classic redirection tactics, exactly as Lee Fang exposed last week [1]. You talk about those wars, I'll support you. I'll talk about this one [1] https://www.leefang.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-information

No it's not tell me why you can't sleep when 18600 people get killed but you can sleep like a baby when you know there is a lot more suffering in places without the limelight. You writing about Palestine but not other conflicts says more about you than you want to admit. Hybris.

Because he (and many others) are more invested in this war? That's why I care more, I didn't care about Russia/Ukraine but have far more knowledge and understanding of this one, and personal relationships.

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I hope people will engage with this. I see so many founders and employees in tech who feel unable to speak up about what they see happening in Gaza.

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I would say your post is the false propaganda, pretending everything is one sided and extremely complex, and that people should not be emotional when emotion is the root of ethics. Whatever your thoughts on how this war started, what's currently happening is clearly a massacre of the civilians of Gaza.

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Great, seems we agree. So it should stop and we should speak up about it, right?

I have no problem with people speaking up just with people that want to be edgy and write a sob story when a opportunity arises. As I said you deciding to speak up now but not about other conflicts says more about you than you think. Do you really not sleep?

I don't usually post this sort of "dear diary" thing either, but when there's a US ally doing a genocide, and we in the west have the opportunity to do something about it, I figured it was better to post. Not sure what I can do about the Congo, but if I get some small set of folks in tech to feel like they can criticize this genocide, we have the ability to change US policy.

But yeah, I'm not being facetious. I haven't slept properly since Oct 7.

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I would say your post is the false propaganda, pretending everything is one sided and extremely complex, and that people should not be emotional when emotion is the root of ethics. Whatever your thoughts on how this war started, what's currently happening is clearly a massacre of the civilians of Gaza.

No as you admitted in your other comment you are just biased.

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To add to this: the two sides in the war are supposedly Israel and Hamas. Can we not agree that either side killing civilians is wrong?

At the very least call it Israel vs Gaza, calling it just "Hamas" when many gazan civilians are involved does not fit what is happening. Language matters, and in fact I wouldn't even call it Israel vs Gaza, but Zionist Terrorists vs Palestine, because I don't recognize the settler colony "Israel".

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I would say your post is the false propaganda, pretending everything is one sided and extremely complex, and that people should not be emotional when emotion is the root of ethics. Whatever your thoughts on how this war started, what's currently happening is clearly a massacre of the civilians of Gaza.

No as you admitted in your other comment you are just biased.

Again, how can you be perfectly "objective" writing about something when morality is subjective and based on emotion at its core. We can write about the facts and attempt to convince the audience based on appealing to their moral values, which is what OP is doing.

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To add to this: the two sides in the war are supposedly Israel and Hamas. Can we not agree that either side killing civilians is wrong?

At the very least call it Israel vs Gaza, calling it just "Hamas" when many gazan civilians are involved does not fit what is happening. Language matters, and in fact I wouldn't even call it Israel vs Gaza, but Zionist Terrorists vs Palestine, because I don't recognize the settler colony "Israel".

I think by "involved" you mean victims, right? I read that wrong the first time and thought you were making the opposite point.

Completely agree that the framing is deliberate and bullshit. When you see what's actually happening, it's hard to believe that they're not actually trying to push Gazans into the sea (or Egypt).

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No it's not tell me why you can't sleep when 18600 people get killed but you can sleep like a baby when you know there is a lot more suffering in places without the limelight. You writing about Palestine but not other conflicts says more about you than you want to admit. Hybris.

Because he (and many others) are more invested in this war? That's why I care more, I didn't care about Russia/Ukraine but have far more knowledge and understanding of this one, and personal relationships.

For me, Ukraine and Palestine are the same team: the oppressed fighting a powerful oppressor. Plus, I'm Irish - we're always on the side of the colonized.

Though in this one, I live in the country oppressing (that being the US), and I'm part of the movement doing the oppressing (that being tech). So there's duty to speak up.

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At the very least call it Israel vs Gaza, calling it just "Hamas" when many gazan civilians are involved does not fit what is happening. Language matters, and in fact I wouldn't even call it Israel vs Gaza, but Zionist Terrorists vs Palestine, because I don't recognize the settler colony "Israel".

I think by "involved" you mean victims, right? I read that wrong the first time and thought you were making the opposite point. Completely agree that the framing is deliberate and bullshit. When you see what's actually happening, it's hard to believe that they're not actually trying to push Gazans into the sea (or Egypt).

The zionists have been trying to ethnically cleanse the palestinians and their leadership has made that very clear.

Gazans are involved as victims, but they also support Hamas since that is the only group that stands up for their rights and dares to fight back. You may not agree with them, but I do and completely understand the mindset. The only reason we even talk about Palestine now instead of allowing a slow genocide to happen, is because of the bravery of those men from the resistance who dared to fight back against the oppression.

https://johnmenadue.com/the-october-7-hamas-assault-on-israe...

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