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My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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Re: My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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I'm sure they do research like any other scientist hopes to do, but they might focus on North Korea specific things like coal chemistry (North Korea has huge coal deposits but very little petroleum, so coal chemistry has a niche there). They probably also focus on a lot of dual-use research like computer security stuff which can be done without having huge resources. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in North…

An example: vinylon. [1] Briefly popular in the early 20th century, North Korea is about the only place in the world that still makes or uses the stuff.

It can be made from coal and limestone which are some of the few resources North Korea has. Similar to nylon or polyester, except stiffer. It's the material used for those shiny suits the North Korean officials wear. [2] A significant % of all clothing in the country is made from it at a couple big plants.

There is probably slave labour involved in its production. And yet one can say at the same time that, making Vinylon, in a very cold country, is probably significant and meaningful work for many of the middle and upper management and scientific types involved in it, yes.

Some models of how bad North Korea is (and it is hard to overstate, really, but some do) seem to require the North Korean people be almost inhuman in their endurance.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinylon

[2] https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-north-korean-men-dressing-...

Re: My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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Reading this brought back a vivid memory of listening to Voice of Korea about 20 years ago.

I had a shortwave receiver in my Honda Civic - a Sony AM/FM/shortwave/cassette that was a drop-in replacement for the factory radio. On the way to work at Adobe in San Jose one day, I tuned in North Korea's English-language broadcast beamed to North America.

One news announcement stuck in my mind so vividly that I remember it word for word to this day:

"Scientists are studying the brain of Respected Comrade Kim Jong-il, because the Respected Comrade is capable of feats of mental power beyond the ability of ordinary human beings."

Brainwashed: Growing up in North Korea:

https://medium.com/@penguinpress/tears-of-blood-life-in-nort...

Voice of Korea official site and Wikipedia page:

http://www.vok.rep.kp/index.php/home/main/en

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Korea

Re: My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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High demand for stories from North Korea and no way to verify them makes me wary of what a fiction writer has written.

This author is also living in South Korea which by law bans you to speak positively about North Korea. Not to say NK isn’t bad, but you are unable to have an honest and balanced discussion about it in the media while you live in SK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_(South...

Re: My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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This story reminds me that education is a privilege and I'm probably not enjoying it as much as I should.

I was a horrible college student when I was younger. For a variety of reasons. I quit school, got lucky, and fell into a good tech career.

Many many years later after age 40 I was laid off, wanted a new career path / job, I took a few classes and eventually a bootcamp and changed careers. I was really nervous as far as how it would all play out knowing how terrible I was previously.

It was completely different. The idea that I would go into a room each day and someone would drop some knowledge on me was thrilling. A few other older students like me felt the same way. We were always up front if possible, active, it was a JOY to go to class each day.

Meanwhile I was surrounded by younger folks who reminded me of me as far as being perfectly capable, but low enthusiasm, effort, attention and interest level.

Education, and youth is sometimes wasted on the young. I only wish I could have gone back to school more.

I go to the local university now and then. Despite all the challenges, those folks don't seem to know how good they have it, but I can't judge, neither did I.

Re: My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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It's always fascinating to hear about the cultural structures within North Korea. The image in my head is one where 5% are comfortable party officials and 95% are starving labourers. Of course that's not true: there are intellectuals and scientists in the middle, like in any other society. A related article was posted a few months ago regarding North Korean sci-fi. Also fascinating! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?…

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Re: My doomed career as a North Korean novelist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure they do research like any other scientist hopes to do, but they might focus on North Korea specific things like coal chemistry (North Korea has huge coal deposits but very little petroleum, so coal chemistry has a niche there). They probably also focus on a lot of dual-use research like computer security stuff which can be done without having huge resources. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in North…

An example: vinylon. [1] Briefly popular in the early 20th century, North Korea is about the only place in the world that still makes or uses the stuff. It can be made from coal and limestone which are some of the few resources North Korea has. Similar to nylon or polyester, except stiffer. It's the material used for those shiny suits the North Korean officials wear. [2] A significant % of all clothing in the country…

What's funny is that those extremely popular Fjällräven Kånken bags are made from Vinylon F, which the company strenuously claims is not of North Korean origin.

https://www.fjallraven.com/eu/en-gb/about-fjallraven/materia...

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