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How to deorbit the Chromebook and repurpose it for innovators

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Re: How to deorbit the Chromebook and repurpose it for innovators

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Funnily enough, I’m currently looking to buy a really cheap (like sub-$50 cheap) Chromebook and put Linux (or BSD, or Haiku) on it. Or just keep it at is and treat it like as the modern version of an Atari Portfolio. Even saw a video likening it to Raspberry Pi- but cheaper. https://youtu.be/1qfSJxcgH5I

after my "Tuxedo computer" laptop is reaching its EOL (due to issues with the power-supply) I wanted to treat myself with something similar. Turns out that CLEVO supplies most of these vendors (System76, Tuxedo, etc). In fact system76 [1] "darter pro 9" seems equivalent to Clevo "NS50AU" model [2] - so getting coreboot to work is finally a reality. the only issue I have with system76 is that I'm unable to get it with an ISO keyboard. So ordering directly from CLEVO I hoped solves it.

Only downside that I'm now finding out the hard way, is that CLEVO is unresponsive wrt support questions. The machine has been paid in advance a while ago and was supposed to ship within 10 days. looking at their google reviews I'm not the only one who has this issue. Nobody picks up the phone, emails aren't answered etc. According to the reviews some simply don't get their goods at all and have to take legal action.

[1] https://system76.com/laptops/darp9/configure

[2] https://clevo-computer.com/en/laptops-configurator/processor...

coreboot with heads: https://doc.coreboot.org/distributions.html?highlight=heads

Re: How to deorbit the Chromebook and repurpose it for innovators

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The usual 'just get an old thinkpad' advice still applies IMO. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=thinkpad&_sac...

Do chromeos thinkpads or windows thinkpads have better coreboot/libreboot support, on average?

FYI, you can buy Thinkpads that are "refurbished" with Coreboot: https://minifree.org/

Buying them funds maintenance of Coreboot.

Re: How to deorbit the Chromebook and repurpose it for innovators

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Funnily enough, I’m currently looking to buy a really cheap (like sub-$50 cheap) Chromebook and put Linux (or BSD, or Haiku) on it. Or just keep it at is and treat it like as the modern version of an Atari Portfolio. Even saw a video likening it to Raspberry Pi- but cheaper. https://youtu.be/1qfSJxcgH5I

A cheap AUE Chromebook flashed with UEFI makes a good (albeit rather storage-starved) Linux beater - but you'll have trouble with Haiku or any of the BSDs because the hardware is a little "quirky." The input devices in most of the currently-cheap x86 Chromebooks are plumbed over i2c in a slightly strange way that didn't even work entirely right on mainline Linux until fairly recently, and Bay/Cherry trail style half-SOC-half-external-codec style sound hardware that only mostly works in mainline Linux right now.

Just because I was beating on it at the time, I tried Haiku and NetBSD on a Dell Chromebook 3189 2-in-1 with Mr. Chromebox Coreboot back in August, and (quoting myself from https://pappp.net/?p=59407 ) Haiku R1B4 boots but sees no integrated input devices or sound, Haiku Nightly hrev57235 sees the mouse (which is interesting because it looks like the patch adding support should have been in R1B4), but it’s constantly drifting and spamming click events, and still no keyboard or sound. NetBSD9.0 loses track of its discs during boot, while 9.3 boots but with no integrated mouse/keyboard – there are patches under review in July ’23 to add support for them.

For about the same price as bare SBC or surplus SFF box, a hacked Chromebook gets you input devices, a display, a managed battery, and a usually rather rugged portable case, but no exposed GPIOs or UARTs or the like. For 3D printer controllers, streaming media endpoints, software experiments that might screw up the host so you don't want them on a machine you care about, and that sort of thing, they're a decent choice.

Re: How to deorbit the Chromebook and repurpose it for innovators

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Funnily enough, I’m currently looking to buy a really cheap (like sub-$50 cheap) Chromebook and put Linux (or BSD, or Haiku) on it. Or just keep it at is and treat it like as the modern version of an Atari Portfolio. Even saw a video likening it to Raspberry Pi- but cheaper. https://youtu.be/1qfSJxcgH5I

A cheap AUE Chromebook flashed with UEFI makes a good (albeit rather storage-starved) Linux beater - but you'll have trouble with Haiku or any of the BSDs because the hardware is a little "quirky." The input devices in most of the currently-cheap x86 Chromebooks are plumbed over i2c in a slightly strange way that didn't even work entirely right on mainline Linux until fairly recently, and Bay/Cherry trail style half-…

At least once one open-source OS supports a bit of hardware, the other ones can look in and see what they need to do. That doesn't prevent them from lacking the personpower to actually do it, but it drops the effort required to reverse engineer from scratch dramatically, if someone becomes interested enough.

Re: How to deorbit the Chromebook and repurpose it for innovators

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> None of this would dissuade educational establishments from buying new Chromebooks for general use. Quite the opposite, it would release a tranche of hardware for re-use, in effect making any new purchase a two-for-one offer

Google's vendor lock-in is built into the price. If they sold it explicitly as a dual boot laptop, they'd be Dell or HP, not a 'services company'.

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