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Didn’t Steve Jobs originally say that iMessage would be an open protocol? Or am I misremembering that?
Steve Jobs went on medical leave from Apple since January 2011.
Wikipedia says iMessage was announced June 6, 2011 by Scott Forstall and launched October 12, 2011.
Steve was at the announcement but died a week before that launch.
⇒ I think it’s unlikely he said anything about it in public.
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I've been using Beeper for a while now and have zero interest in iMessage. It aggregates Discord, Signal, SMS, LinkedIn, Slack, Twitter, WhatsApp message into one place. It's fantastic! (Though it's recently developed a weird bug where my Signal messages out aren't delivered to the remote recipient... Such is the nature of adversarial interoperability.)
Are you paying for this, or are all of the features you use part of their free offering? I didn't realize until just now that they created a free tier: https://blog.beeper.com/p/beeper-is-now-free
I have zero hope for it, but until recently no one was bothering to try. So it was kind of unclear what the situation really was.
Having seen two different folks interop in the last 30 days, it's clear that there's some will & desire & that technically it was feasible. I kind of see it as the market finally ante-ing in. Zero surprise, it's what everyone expected, but the sheer alacrity with which Apple has legally & technically refused any competitive compatibility says the quiet part out loud, that preventing people from communicating across devices is a hill Apple absolutely will throw every last body it can find to hold.
Didn’t Steve Jobs originally say that iMessage would be an open protocol? Or am I misremembering that?
Didn’t Steve Jobs originally say that iMessage would be an open protocol? Or am I misremembering that?
FaceTime or iMessage doesn’t matter, it’ll never happen. They want you to buy their expensive hardware to get those features, and releasing an open proto would create dozens of android implementations and hurt their sales, in some amount
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FaceTime or iMessage doesn’t matter, it’ll never happen. They want you to buy their expensive hardware to get those features, and releasing an open proto would create dozens of android implementations and hurt their sales, in some amount
The cost of switching to/from iOS just isn't worth it for "just" iMessage. I don't think you're making a valid argument here.
It is particularly pernicious among teens[1], who drive a lot of this market (and, of course, become adults and bring their habits with them)
[1] (paywall) https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-...
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FaceTime or iMessage doesn’t matter, it’ll never happen. They want you to buy their expensive hardware to get those features, and releasing an open proto would create dozens of android implementations and hurt their sales, in some amount
The cost of switching to/from iOS just isn't worth it for "just" iMessage. I don't think you're making a valid argument here.
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The cost of switching to/from iOS just isn't worth it for "just" iMessage. I don't think you're making a valid argument here.
lock-in is real. green bubble vs blue bubble will has social and dating implications
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The cost of switching to/from iOS just isn't worth it for "just" iMessage. I don't think you're making a valid argument here.
I know multiple people who cited iMessage compatibility as their top reason for switching and even have considered it myself -- the chilling effect that "green text" has on including non-iMessage users in group messages is real and has small but measurable impact on some of my relationships. It is particularly pernicious among teens[1], who drive a lot of this market (and, of course, become adults and bring their hab…
In my experience as a parent with two high-school-age kids, this is mostly a media-created narrative fueled by Google PR.
I've witnessed their many text chains, all of which are standards-based (green bubble) because some participants are Android users. When I asked about it explicitly their response was "that's not a thing" (at least in SoCal).
Note that I'm speaking in generalities. I have no doubt there are individual elite cliques where the alpha children demand that members have certain types of phones, wear certain types of clothing, ride certain models of ebikes, etc.