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Re: End of Life of Technologies and Devices

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Post by kemotep »

userbinator wrote: post #6

Should be called The Planned Obsolescence Shaming Site.

In the case of operating systems, do you think 10 or so years of support is not enough?

Brian Lunduke once talked about GNU/Hurd and said they should do the following release cycle:

1. Spend a few months working on it and then declare that the 1.0 release.

2. Spend 2-3 years getting Hurd to work on as many architectures and systems as possible. Get all graphics cards types that you can working. Release 2.0.

3. Spend the next 10-15 years squashing as many bugs as possible. Continue working on getting as many drivers as necessary to get it working on as many platforms as possible. Then release 3.0.

4. At this point be done. For the next 100 years GNU/Hurd 3.0 is it. Just do security and driver updates.

I thought the idea of a “forever” OS was interesting. It would then never become “obsolete”.

Re: End of Life of Technologies and Devices

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Post by jacquesm »

kemotep wrote: post #11
userbinator wrote: post #6

Should be called The Planned Obsolescence Shaming Site.

In the case of operating systems, do you think 10 or so years of support is not enough? Brian Lunduke once talked about GNU/Hurd and said they should do the following release cycle: 1. Spend a few months working on it and then declare that the 1.0 release. 2. Spend 2-3 years getting Hurd to work on as many architectures and systems as possible. Get all graphics cards types that you can working. Release 2.0. 3. Spend…

> In the case of operating systems, do you think 10 or so years of support is not enough?

Yes, I do think that is not enough. An OS should be thought of as scaffolding where parts of it are replaced but never the whole. And preferably while it is running, including all of the core.

Re: End of Life of Technologies and Devices

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Post by pierrelf »

kemotep wrote: post #11
userbinator wrote: post #6

Should be called The Planned Obsolescence Shaming Site.

In the case of operating systems, do you think 10 or so years of support is not enough? Brian Lunduke once talked about GNU/Hurd and said they should do the following release cycle: 1. Spend a few months working on it and then declare that the 1.0 release. 2. Spend 2-3 years getting Hurd to work on as many architectures and systems as possible. Get all graphics cards types that you can working. Release 2.0. 3. Spend…

Huh never knew that was their plan, such a shame Hurd isn't completed! I wonder if such a vision could be possible with a simpler os like FreeRTOS or similar

Re: End of Life of Technologies and Devices

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Post by kemotep »

pierrelf wrote: post #14
kemotep wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of operating systems, do you think 10 or so years of support is not enough? Brian Lunduke once talked about GNU/Hurd and said they should do the following release cycle: 1. Spend a few months working on it and then declare that the 1.0 release. 2. Spend 2-3 years getting Hurd to work on as many architectures and systems as possible. Get all graphics cards types that you can working. Release 2.0. 3. Spend…

Huh never knew that was their plan, such a shame Hurd isn't completed! I wonder if such a vision could be possible with a simpler os like FreeRTOS or similar

That’s not the actual plan for GNU Hurd that was Brian wishcasting.

Re: End of Life of Technologies and Devices

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Post by moffkalast »

captn3m0 wrote: post #2

Creator here, happy to answer any questions about what it takes to build a collaborative Wiki for tracking support life cycles. You can support our work on GitHub Sponsors or https://opencollective.com/endoflife-date We recently crossed 8M impressions via Google Search this month: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/discussions...

I take it Samsung doesn't typically announce their products' support times, given that most of them just have a "Yes" instead of a date?

Re: End of Life of Technologies and Devices

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Post by KronisLV »

hosteur wrote: post #9
captn3m0 wrote: post #2

Creator here, happy to answer any questions about what it takes to build a collaborative Wiki for tracking support life cycles. You can support our work on GitHub Sponsors or https://opencollective.com/endoflife-date We recently crossed 8M impressions via Google Search this month: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/discussions...

Thanks for making this. I really like it. Do you have plans to monetize it? I hope not. Because this is a thing that should exist in the world. I would much rather support this via donations than ads or anything else.

> Do you have plans to monetize it? I hope not.

OpenCollective says that the total donations are $1,107.75 USD with 6 contributors. I threw another 20 bucks at them after reading that, but it seems like at least ads or something would make sense purely from a financial perspective, since even with 8M impressions, not that many are interested in donating sadly.

I do really enjoy the site, it has lots of technologies listed and looks very pleasant. Actually used it just this week, since I started building an API with the previous .NET LTS version but a new one came out, so I suddenly started having to install older package versions for compatibility reasons hah.

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