This is why I use a separate keyboard to type in my password. If you don’t have a dedicated keyboard, then I suggest you have a loved one come over to enter your passwords for you. Sometimes I have my kid do it
Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
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Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
No thanks, I'd rather keep my secrets unbound from any physical object.
Your password can still be a secret unbound from any physical object. This is just a second layer, so I don't really see the downside EDIT: I guess you're right in that the parent was suggesting NOT typing passwords and sort of equating that to 2FA. so yeah, I like to keep one password in my head only (for sensitive stuff) and use a second factor if possible
The second layer is the downside, it makes it annoying to log into stuff. Even using SSH keys is awful. The UX of being able to log into things from wherever on whatever device because you remember your password is unparalleled. Yeah you have to worry about being keylogged which like, sure, it's a worry, but I've spent a lot more of my life being annoyed that I couldn't log into something because I didn't have the SSH key on that machine or trying to find my stupid yubikey etc than I have dealing with the afermath of having something hacked.
(which to my knowledge only happened once when I set the root password on my VPS to 'toor' before i knew about internet background hacking radiation, and sure maybe i'm compromised right now, but it's absolutely not affecting my day to day life so i'm not gonna worry about it)
Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#13This is why I use a separate keyboard to type in my password. If you don’t have a dedicated keyboard, then I suggest you have a loved one come over to enter your passwords for you. Sometimes I have my kid do it
Just randomly change the weight of your switches on your custom mechanical keyboard every 10000 keystrokes to keep the AI guessing.
Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
No thanks, I'd rather keep my secrets unbound from any physical object.
My 2FA OTPs are synced by 1Password which I can access from any of my devices; you can set up something similar with FOSS if you want full control. Authenticating to 1Password requires both a master password and a secret key; they have a feature called "Emergency Kit" for creating offline backups of the key ( https://support.1password.com/emergency-kit/ )
Using a password manager introduces a single point of failure. My biometrics are leaked every time I post a selfie or a picture of myself holding something. The idea of something like an "emergency kit" being extant for something I care about makes my skin crawl. They say you should put it in you cloud storage!!! What the actual fuck. The only points of vulnerability in the chain for the things I have passwords on is keylogging or a system breach on the provider side. I can rest easy that until I have my brain chip I'll lose at most one thing at a time. There is zero chance of a massive failure, and there's a very low chance that I'll lose access because some part of the chain is missing, and my vulnerability surface is much lower than if my passwords existed anywhere outside my brain.
In any case, I'm far far more worried about not being able to log into something because there's too much security than I am worried about someone accessing my things when they shouldn't. The former has cost me many more productive minutes than the latter.
Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#15Don’t type passwords. Use 2FA whenever possible
2FA is password (something you know) and device (something that you have). You have to enter the password to use 2FA.
Are you thinking of password manager? Most password managers involve entering the master password. Some can open with fingerprint but need to use the password occasionally.
Are you thinking about passkeys? Those aren’t 2FA.
Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#16Don’t type passwords. Use 2FA whenever possible
2FA is password (something you know) and device (something that you have). You have to enter the password to use 2FA. Are you thinking of password manager? Most password managers involve entering the master password. Some can open with fingerprint but need to use the password occasionally. Are you thinking about passkeys? Those aren’t 2FA.
I suspect he's thinking of just straight up using an authenticator instead of a password, which i should remind people is 1FA.
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#17This is why I use a separate keyboard to type in my password. If you don’t have a dedicated keyboard, then I suggest you have a loved one come over to enter your passwords for you. Sometimes I have my kid do it
I would love to understand the joke behind this. My sarcasm level is not to this level to understand this one. Any references that I can read to catch up?
What about a virtual keyboard on the screen? What if we have our custom-built virtual keyboard with random arrangements of keys every time I want to type a Password?
Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#18This is why I use a separate keyboard to type in my password. If you don’t have a dedicated keyboard, then I suggest you have a loved one come over to enter your passwords for you. Sometimes I have my kid do it
Just randomly change the weight of your switches on your custom mechanical keyboard every 10000 keystrokes to keep the AI guessing.
I type each key on a different keyboard. But the AI has started to guess the order of the keyboards that I use.
Re: Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing
#19Wasn't it on-screen keyboards that were the mitigation against keyloggers way back in the day?
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#20And just today there is a post about the Sneakers Movie Promotional Floppy!
Now, from memory I’m pretty sure there is a scene where the visually impaired / blind Hacker can work out the password by listening to the audio on the surveillance tape!
I’m probably mangling my memory of the scene, so please correct me! :-)