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Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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Two years + 6 weeks of notice, that would seem to be enough to make a move. This was in the cards for a long time and I noted in the first weeks of the war that anybody from Russia with assets in the West would be smart to move them because sooner or later they'd be at risk. Note that the real artery isn't hosting but DNS and if there are more similar actions at registrars or even at ICANN (see the 'NameCheap' thread) then that will have as much or more impact. Hosting is usually manageable (unless you are tied into hosting provider unique services, such as AWS).

Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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I don't think this qualifies, as the definition is as follows:

>prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

There is no discrimination on racial or ethnic lines going on. If Russia wouldn't have invaded the Ukraine they wouldn't have put their citizens in this mess in the first place. Actions have consquences

Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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Shit take, "race" has nothing to do with it. Ethnic Russians living in other countries (of whom there are many) are not having their contracts terminated. People who aren't ethnic Russians but live in Russia (again, many people) are having their contracts terminated.

Both of these figures, Russian diaspora and ethnic minorities in Russia, are in the neighborhood of 30 million people.

Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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so even if postal address is changed, it will still mean termination, why?

Because they're not idiots? Hetzner doesn't want to end up in the cross hairs of authorities coming down on companies doing business with sanctioned entities. This is their legal department speaking, not the technicians and a change in postal address is so transparent that it will not work.

Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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1 month to migrate is pretty dire. I would hope that they at least offer some kind of "pay for a year up front" kind of deal so that you can actually plan a migration. Quiet reminder that the actions of politicians and the actions of businesses/people - while not mutually exclusive - are usually quite disparate. I do feel for the citizens and business that do not endorse Russian aggression who: by accident of birth,…

Whatever legal change happened says they can’t do business with Russians. I doubt there’s a get out clause saying “unless you got a year up front out of them” in that law.

Yeah, I would speculate the same.

However it could also be "Just easier" or that Hetzner doesn't want to deal with Russians anyway.

Normally the way these financial sanctions go is that you are permitted to give service if it has already been paid for but you cannot take new service. Annual contracts are a normal thing but I don't see the option in Hetzner right now, so it could easily be an oversight.

It could easily be that they take monthly billing only (normally) and have no desire to introduce this to bypass the "russians cannot purchase services" style sanction.

Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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1 month to migrate is pretty dire. I would hope that they at least offer some kind of "pay for a year up front" kind of deal so that you can actually plan a migration. Quiet reminder that the actions of politicians and the actions of businesses/people - while not mutually exclusive - are usually quite disparate. I do feel for the citizens and business that do not endorse Russian aggression who: by accident of birth,…

It's two years and 6 weeks (almost 7), not 1 month.

Re: Hetzner is terminating contracts with all users who had a Russian postal address

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Maybe they should stop brutalizing their nearest neighbors with guns and their global neighbors with hacks as if this is normal behaviour idk

Not on us that they've let their reputation slide so far

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