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Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by hcfman »

I hate to be a cynic. But this organisation is funded by the people it is watching. There's another organisation called transparency.org, same situation. I tried to contact them about corruption in the past and they refused to get back to me, they just wouldn't respond to my calls (Answer phone) and refused to call me back. So much for this mission statements.

The main purpose in my cynical view is to provide the appearance of transparency.

Slightly less hidden, there's a Dutch organisation called "Veiligheidpercepties.nl". Here they are quite literally saying it's not about safety but the perception of safety.

But okay, at least some document gather tasks will be performed etc. However, the most important thing, associating repercussions on corruption, that's extremely difficult. In the Netherlands it's essentially impossible for certain types of corruption. i.e. the important ones.

Re: EU Integrity Watch

#12

Post by paganel »

> decisions made by politicians in the European Union

I just want my life not to be controlled anymore by an unelected thingie such as the European Commission, as such, shifting the blame on provincial (because that's what they are by now, anyway) politicians is just very counter-productive.

And then the powers that be will act surprised when they see that anti-EU sentiment is gaining ground (it's the Russians' fault, of course, if not them, the Chinese or the Iranians, never allow any political agency for people going against unelected supra-national entities such as the European Commission is).

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Post by paganel »

nona wrote: post #7

The first three comments within the hour that this article was posted, were made by a 10-minutes old account and seem suspiciously like anti-EU astroturfing. Makes me hope or wish for a cross-website pseudonymous karma system, to at least rein in this kind of public opinion gaming. Back on-topic: this website seems to be a net positive, already it's challenging some of my preconceptions in that some EU member states…

I've been on this forum for 16 years, 17 years soon if God permits, I've just added an anti-European Commission comment somewhere else in this thread, hope that helps keeping score with who's saying what.

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Post by 433f »

nona wrote: post #7

The first three comments within the hour that this article was posted, were made by a 10-minutes old account and seem suspiciously like anti-EU astroturfing. Makes me hope or wish for a cross-website pseudonymous karma system, to at least rein in this kind of public opinion gaming. Back on-topic: this website seems to be a net positive, already it's challenging some of my preconceptions in that some EU member states…

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Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by RandomLensman »

paganel wrote: post #12

> decisions made by politicians in the European Union I just want my life not to be controlled anymore by an unelected thingie such as the European Commission, as such, shifting the blame on provincial (because that's what they are by now, anyway) politicians is just very counter-productive. And then the powers that be will act surprised when they see that anti-EU sentiment is gaining ground (it's the Russians' fault…

In quite a few European countries the government isn't directly elected - so "unelected" is a bit tricky here unless you are extending that to those national governments, too.

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Post by [deleted] »

nona wrote: post #7

The first three comments within the hour that this article was posted, were made by a 10-minutes old account and seem suspiciously like anti-EU astroturfing. Makes me hope or wish for a cross-website pseudonymous karma system, to at least rein in this kind of public opinion gaming. Back on-topic: this website seems to be a net positive, already it's challenging some of my preconceptions in that some EU member states…

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Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by dekken_ »

jongjong wrote: post #10

The amount of government corruption everywhere is unfathomable. They're essentially handing out billions worth of contracts to their friends... This crony-economy dominates every aspect of our lives as it's not possible for honest businesses to compete against businesses that are backed by easy government money. It's very much like slavery. The only significant difference is that instead of having two classes of peop…

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Re: EU Integrity Watch

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Post by gwnywg »

paganel wrote: post #12

> decisions made by politicians in the European Union I just want my life not to be controlled anymore by an unelected thingie such as the European Commission, as such, shifting the blame on provincial (because that's what they are by now, anyway) politicians is just very counter-productive. And then the powers that be will act surprised when they see that anti-EU sentiment is gaining ground (it's the Russians' fault…

I wonder what are your thoughts about recent acceleration in integration efforts..? It looks strangely familiar to me, though different time and different state actors involved :)
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