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Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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Everyone is trying really hard to find an actual use for LLM in mainstream Applications. So far little progress has been made

Thank god that interest rates are no longer zero, which propped up all kinds of over hyped, half baked crap in the last 20-30 years.

It will take care of hypsters and their proven 'raise gobs of cheap cash on hype and capture market as fast as possible to hide half baked product' strategy.

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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Everyone is trying really hard to find an actual use for LLM in mainstream Applications. So far little progress has been made

open world video games with lots of npcs

I think companies are worried about how unpredictable and abusable this currently is. Imagine how parents feel when their 12 year old jailbreaks an npc and starts having explicit conversations with it.

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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They could replace Siri with one on the level of OpenAI, that would be a good start.

If Siri started hallucinating like ChatGPT does, it would be a PR nightmare.

A hallucinating Siri would be way more useful than the current version…

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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Everyone is trying really hard to find an actual use for LLM in mainstream Applications. So far little progress has been made

Microsoft Paint now has an integrated image generator. That’s as mainstream as you can get.

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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post #4

Everyone is trying really hard to find an actual use for LLM in mainstream Applications. So far little progress has been made

open world video games with lots of npcs

Do people really want that? I feel like what often makes a game good is a tight experience, not added bloat.

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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Hard disagree. ChatGPT is already useful for work. I regularly see it used for legal and technical questions.

A trick I do with ChatGPT 3 is type in student questions. One thing it is generally bad at is recognising bad questions. Someone who knew the frameworks would probe a little and figure out that the student was looking up a dead end. I think it’s great, and sometimes good enough for me to use as the basis of my answers.

I feel like anyone who claims chatgpt is helping them work is just telling on themselves as trying to do things out of their depth and producing output they don't understand well enough to vet.

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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post #11

Everyone is trying really hard to find an actual use for LLM in mainstream Applications. So far little progress has been made

Thank god that interest rates are no longer zero, which propped up all kinds of over hyped, half baked crap in the last 20-30 years. It will take care of hypsters and their proven 'raise gobs of cheap cash on hype and capture market as fast as possible to hide half baked product' strategy.

We about to see who has been swimming naked...

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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post #10

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A trick I do with ChatGPT 3 is type in student questions. One thing it is generally bad at is recognising bad questions. Someone who knew the frameworks would probe a little and figure out that the student was looking up a dead end. I think it’s great, and sometimes good enough for me to use as the basis of my answers.

I feel like anyone who claims chatgpt is helping them work is just telling on themselves as trying to do things out of their depth and producing output they don't understand well enough to vet.

ChatGPT sets a baseline. If my answer isn’t better than ChatGPT there would be no point in employing me. But students use it all the time. They use it to cheat. They use it to brainstorm.

I have plenty of criticism for chatGPT. It attempts to fake nuance by creating shallow syntheses of conflicting info. It doesn’t understand anything it talks about systemically. It has no insight into the user.

But it can regurgitate a list that you can use to structure your answer to a student’s question. It’s interesting to me because people do want me to believe it’s coming for my job. It’s a way off yet.

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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open world video games with lots of npcs

Do people really want that? I feel like what often makes a game good is a tight experience, not added bloat.

It depends on how it’s implemented. Maybe you could train mmo npcs in this and make it fun but I agree I expect this to simply generate a dumpster fire experience

Re: Apple is spending a lot of time and money working out how LLMs might be useful

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I feel like anyone who claims chatgpt is helping them work is just telling on themselves as trying to do things out of their depth and producing output they don't understand well enough to vet.

ChatGPT sets a baseline. If my answer isn’t better than ChatGPT there would be no point in employing me. But students use it all the time. They use it to cheat. They use it to brainstorm. I have plenty of criticism for chatGPT. It attempts to fake nuance by creating shallow syntheses of conflicting info. It doesn’t understand anything it talks about systemically. It has no insight into the user. But it can regurgitat…

It’s somewhat useful to brainstorm, it really helps with the empty page problem but it’s not good and the resultant nudge could be in a very generic direction. Instead of promoting creativity it pushes you toward sameness.
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