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I haven't used Google Search for about a year now.

What do you use in its place? Are your alternatives meeting your needs?

Same. Kagi here.

The odd times I end up on a Google search it's just jarring how terrible it is in comparison.

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post #12

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What do you use in its place? Are your alternatives meeting your needs?

Same. Kagi here. The odd times I end up on a Google search it's just jarring how terrible it is in comparison.

When I can't use Kagi, now, it's a very "wow, this is what it's like to browse without an adblocker" kind of moment

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post #12

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What do you use in its place? Are your alternatives meeting your needs?

Same. Kagi here. The odd times I end up on a Google search it's just jarring how terrible it is in comparison.

I've been using Kagi for a few months and agree it's a great product, especially the lenses.

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Features I actually want from Google Search:

* The ability to get results for the terms I actually searched for. Even adding quotes around specific terms hasn't worked reliably for years.

* Less clutter and junk on the results page. Some of the SERPs can be jarringly noisy and bad, especially on mobile.

* Less SEO spam in the results. The norm for any remotely monetizable search query is to get a page where every result is a long and terribly written article with the same handful of basic facts. Google seems to love automated or poorly written articles that copy from the same source as 100 similar sites.

Instead we get... whatever this stuff is.

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#16

I haven't used Google Search for about a year now.

What do you use in its place? Are your alternatives meeting your needs?

https://www.webcrawler.com

Better than the majority of search engines out there. No, it ain't Kagi, but it's free, and doesn't have that asshole-bar flashing auto-complete trash -- which AFAIC is the most important feature I look for in any tool I use on a daily basis.

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#17

I haven't used Google Search for about a year now.

What do you use in its place? Are your alternatives meeting your needs?

Not OP but I use DDG daily and only revert to !g once a week or less these days.

Google simply isn’t special anymore. Even when I do add !g, about half the time I go back to DDG because googles results are worse.

I no longer recommend Google anything to anyone for any reason where I used to be a huge promoter.

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#18

I haven't used Google Search for about a year now.

What do you use in its place? Are your alternatives meeting your needs?

Duckduckgo for navigating around the web (bangs, searching docs, etc.) i.e. I know where I want to end up. Kagi for the rest.

Google pretty much only for image search and maps, and even those have better alternatives now.

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I think the ship has sailed on this one, not sure how Google can be denial of the more intuitive search trend that is available today.

Google should just bite the bullet and do ChatGPT styled search by intuitively asking questions with RAG capability.

The thing is can they provide this service for free without the subscription fee unlike ChatGPT? Perhaps they could and should, and the cost will be much lower than buying OpenAI. Imagine GoogleGPT with backends of Google Search (not Bing), with Google Scholar, Google Books, Google Patent, Gmail, etc.

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I think the ship has sailed on this one, not sure how Google can be denial of the more intuitive search trend that is available today. Google should just bite the bullet and do ChatGPT styled search by intuitively asking questions with RAG capability. The thing is can they provide this service for free without the subscription fee unlike ChatGPT? Perhaps they could and should, and the cost will be much lower than buy…

They have it. It's called Bard. It's just not as good as one might expect from them.
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