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Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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This sucks, not only will Greece not stay on summer time, we'll actually go to one hour back from winter time? So not only will we not get one more hour of daylight in the evening (ie stay on summer time), we'll actually get one hour less than we have now?

That's terrible.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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post #4

(1) abolishing daylight savings time is great and should have been done years ago. (2) the proposed time zones are really impractical, not necessarily in principle, but in their specific implementation. Germany-Netherlands in different time zones is strange, Dublin and Belfast in different time zones is stupid, Athens and Crete in different time zones is absurd.

I agree. National borders is quite possibly one of the worst ways to do time zones. At least in the US time zone borders were specifically chosen to run through areas of low population, so you would minimize the number of people doing, say, living in France but working in Geneva one hour ahead. Also it's kind of odd that Ireland and Portugal are in their own little time zone, when it probably makes more sense to just…

Ireland and Portugal already are together in this time zone, but the UK is with them, which makes good friday sense.

Map of Timezones: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Ti...

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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post #11

This sucks, not only will Greece not stay on summer time, we'll actually go to one hour back from winter time ? So not only will we not get one more hour of daylight in the evening (ie stay on summer time), we'll actually get one hour less than we have now? That's terrible.

Same with Portugal, moving to Açores time seems bad, specially for working with the rest of Europe.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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"After agreement of a common date within the EU, we recommend doing the transition in 1 to 2 steps, depending on the member state: Step 1: All EU countries abolish the clock change to DST in spring and remain on the clock time they use in winter. For those countries whose recommended time zone is their current standard time, no further steps need to be taken. Step 2: Those countries whose recommended time zone is not…

I'd rather it be how it is in the spring rather than winter. When you get home there's at least a bit more time in the day to enjoy the sun.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

#17
post #14

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: switching to UTC+0:30 will put a large number of countries in a common time zone without them deviating from their solar time too much.

And make converting time between different time zones/countries even more confusing.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

#18
I find it kind of absurd that people claim that clock alignment has negative impact on their health. Studies show that but:

You do it only twice per year. But how often do you stay late up because of an event or whatever. And how often do you travel to another time zone, sometimes even >6 hours.

I think the latter effects outweigh the health impact of clock alignment significantly.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. National borders is quite possibly one of the worst ways to do time zones. At least in the US time zone borders were specifically chosen to run through areas of low population, so you would minimize the number of people doing, say, living in France but working in Geneva one hour ahead. Also it's kind of odd that Ireland and Portugal are in their own little time zone, when it probably makes more sense to just…

Ireland and Portugal already are together in this time zone, but the UK is with them, which makes good friday sense. Map of Timezones: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Ti...

It would make sense to have Portgual and Ireland in the Western Europe time zone. They are right over the border from UTC but it makes sense to include them with neighbors. Especialy when they are currently in UTC. It is Spain and France that need to move.
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