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Here is a few links to relevant documentation pages with code code/script examples:
- Edbrowse as a File Manager: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/CMB/edbrowse/Files.md
- Search Wikipedia using Edbrowse: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/CMB/edbrowse/Search-W...
- Edit text using Edbrowse: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/CMB/edbrowse/Edit-tex...
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True. I still want screenshots though! >This program was originally written for blind users, but many sighted users have taken advantage of the unique scripting capabilities of this program Not sure a Braille book is a suitable metaphor here. A Braille book that is readable by people who don't know Braille, and also (to some degree) markets itself to sighted people?
I stand by my metaphor. It’s a command-line interface, a picture of text is only reducing its accessibility. To complain about the visually impaired not doing enough to make the content more accessible for the visually gifted. I’m just too upset to respond to this kind of discussion. This is my last HN discussion, you’re right, blind people should take screenshots of their programs, enjoy your contrarian community
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True. I still want screenshots though! >This program was originally written for blind users, but many sighted users have taken advantage of the unique scripting capabilities of this program Not sure a Braille book is a suitable metaphor here. A Braille book that is readable by people who don't know Braille, and also (to some degree) markets itself to sighted people?
I stand by my metaphor. It’s a command-line interface, a picture of text is only reducing its accessibility. To complain about the visually impaired not doing enough to make the content more accessible for the visually gifted. I’m just too upset to respond to this kind of discussion. This is my last HN discussion, you’re right, blind people should take screenshots of their programs, enjoy your contrarian community
I've been using this for around 20 years. It works well for browsing both the web and local files, though JavaScript makes it less useful now. I have plugins to browse a lot of file types; an epub will open as an HTML file and let me read it in the same way I would anything else. Browsing directories is fast, and I can jump between edbrowse and the shell easily.
I've been using this for around 20 years. It works well for browsing both the web and local files, though JavaScript makes it less useful now. I have plugins to browse a lot of file types; an epub will open as an HTML file and let me read it in the same way I would anything else. Browsing directories is fast, and I can jump between edbrowse and the shell easily.
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True. I still want screenshots though! >This program was originally written for blind users, but many sighted users have taken advantage of the unique scripting capabilities of this program Not sure a Braille book is a suitable metaphor here. A Braille book that is readable by people who don't know Braille, and also (to some degree) markets itself to sighted people?
I stand by my metaphor. It’s a command-line interface, a picture of text is only reducing its accessibility. To complain about the visually impaired not doing enough to make the content more accessible for the visually gifted. I’m just too upset to respond to this kind of discussion. This is my last HN discussion, you’re right, blind people should take screenshots of their programs, enjoy your contrarian community
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I stand by my metaphor. It’s a command-line interface, a picture of text is only reducing its accessibility. To complain about the visually impaired not doing enough to make the content more accessible for the visually gifted. I’m just too upset to respond to this kind of discussion. This is my last HN discussion, you’re right, blind people should take screenshots of their programs, enjoy your contrarian community
Another metaphor would be a screenshot of bash, or a screenshot of cat, or a screenshot of the original /bin/ed. Next they'll be wanting someone to stream a session of /bin/cat on youtube. Yes, this program was developed with blind people in mind. Plenty of sighted people have found uses for it, and that's lovely. For blind people, there's really no equivalent to the screenshot. Maybe a typescript. Maybe a few minute…
That said, I suspect such requests are not fully baseless.
While nothing beats actually putting on a blindfold and trying, it does not seem unreasonable for a sighted person to try to find out what, e.g., Braille looks like. This knowledge may give them ideas into how it could be possible to incorporate more of it into predominantly visual spaces, for example. We have different modes of attending to the world, and in fact it is seeing Braille in public spaces that reminds many sighted people that not being able to see it is actually a thing (and perhaps even prompts some to learn it).
Is it not similar with software? If it could increase adoption of accessible software among users who do not need it in their current state, would that not support the goal? (Not to deny that screenshots are really beside the point when it comes to documentation completeness of such software, of course.)
In the same spirit but more modern, I’m developing Offpunk: https://sr.ht/~lioploum/offpunk/ (with 2.0 just having been released last week : https://ploum.net/2023-11-25-offpunk2.html and discuted here : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38412886 )
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True. I still want screenshots though! >This program was originally written for blind users, but many sighted users have taken advantage of the unique scripting capabilities of this program Not sure a Braille book is a suitable metaphor here. A Braille book that is readable by people who don't know Braille, and also (to some degree) markets itself to sighted people?
I stand by my metaphor. It’s a command-line interface, a picture of text is only reducing its accessibility. To complain about the visually impaired not doing enough to make the content more accessible for the visually gifted. I’m just too upset to respond to this kind of discussion. This is my last HN discussion, you’re right, blind people should take screenshots of their programs, enjoy your contrarian community
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Another metaphor would be a screenshot of bash, or a screenshot of cat, or a screenshot of the original /bin/ed. Next they'll be wanting someone to stream a session of /bin/cat on youtube. Yes, this program was developed with blind people in mind. Plenty of sighted people have found uses for it, and that's lovely. For blind people, there's really no equivalent to the screenshot. Maybe a typescript. Maybe a few minute…
Without doubt, implying that lack of screenshots of software designed for blind users is unfair should tickle a self-aware person’s sense of irony and one should be careful with phrasing. That said, I suspect such requests are not fully baseless. While nothing beats actually putting on a blindfold and trying, it does not seem unreasonable for a sighted person to try to find out what, e.g., Braille looks like . This k…
