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$10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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It would be cool to have a Patreon-like system for math proofs. But to reward solvers appropriately and at scale, the award conditions and evaluation would have to be very formalized and specific.

This seems to be one potential, actually useful application of blockchains which support general purpose computing - if you can port a proof verifier onto them, you give anyone the ability to commit to (and claim) proof bounties.

Now, precisely formalizing specific conjectures and ensuring the proof system is expressive enough but doesn't allow for the introduction of any new assumptions is another problem...

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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Anything you can do with a calculator is obviously trivial. Is there a clear point of departure when AI can no longer handle mathematical reasoning?

It's problem solving (i.e. finding a proof of a statement or finding one or more mathematical objects that have some given properties and proving they have them and possibly that no other objects do), not computation.

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The IMO are a bit more involved... e.g. IMO 2023: > Problem 1. Determine all composite integers n > 1 that satisfy the following property: if d1, d2, . . . , dk are all the positive divisors of n with 1 = d1 Although ChatGPT 4 makes a pretty decent start on this already: > To determine all composite integers \( n > 1 \) that satisfy the given property, we need to closely examine the condition set forth: for a composi…

That's 300 words for saying "in order for n to satisfy the requirements, it must satisfy the requirements." I tried an easier problem, extending Rolle's theorem to the multidimensional case with Poe.com: Prompt: Let U be an open subset of R^n with compact closure K. Suppose f: K → R is continuous on K, differentiable on U, and satisfies f(x) = 0, for all x in K \ U. Show that there exists a in U with grad f (a) = 0.…

Yeah, this is actually a really good example of its weaknesses.. it's the equivalent of a bullshit essay in math form. Completely tautological, with just a bit of the correct definitions thrown it to seem like it understands.

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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Anything you can do with a calculator is obviously trivial. Is there a clear point of departure when AI can no longer handle mathematical reasoning?

It's problem solving (i.e. finding a proof of a statement or finding one or more mathematical objects that have some given properties and proving they have them and possibly that no other objects do), not computation.

That distinction seems really obvious now that you said it. Thank you.

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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As the parent of a young adult currently half way through their maths undergrad, this kind of fills me with foreboding.

I know that proof assistants etc have existed for quite a while now, but what with this and the murmours about OAI's Q* model, I do wonder what will happen to maths as a human endeavour - and as a enabling skill for jobs that can financially support people like my child.

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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As the parent of a young adult currently half way through their maths undergrad, this kind of fills me with foreboding. I know that proof assistants etc have existed for quite a while now, but what with this and the murmours about OAI's Q* model, I do wonder what will happen to maths as a human endeavour - and as a enabling skill for jobs that can financially support people like my child.

I think its pretty clear that in the coming decade intelligence and cognitive labor is going to become very cheap. So your kid should develop some skills outside of that to stay competitive in the job market.

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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I was recently in Palo Alto, and bumped into a newly founded startup (I don't remember the name unfortunately) who set themselves the grand the vision of exactly this: winning a gold medal on the international Olympiad using AI. Their plan was to build mostly on LLMs as a start, and iterate as they go. In their barebones office space, they had a poster with a countdown of the number of weeks till the event: it was 36…

Well math solving is exactly what the rumored Q* is aiming towards too. I don't think it'll take more than 2 years before some LLM + RL system can take the gold medal.

I think companies like OpenAI are aiming for something far more ambitious, like solving a millennium prize problem (even with human assistance). That's the kind of news release that'll add another $100 billion to your market cap.

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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Tangential is there a list of Unicode characters allowed on hacker news? ﷽!

Yes - apologies for the poor copy-paste here!

You can just ask GPT-4 to rewrite it using unicode characters:

Rewrite this post using unicode characters:

> The IMO are a bit more involved...

Answer:

> The IMO are a bit more involved... e.g. IMO 2023:

> Problem 1. Determine all composite integers n > 1 that satisfy the following property: if d₁, d₂, ..., dₖ are all the positive divisors of n with 1 = d₁ Although ChatGPT 4 makes a pretty decent start on this already:

> To determine all composite integers 𝑛 > 1 that satisfy the given property, we need to closely examine the condition set forth: for a composite number 𝑛 with its divisors d₁, d₂, ..., dₖ where 1 = d₁ Let's break down the problem:

1. Composite Number Requirement: We are looking for composite numbers, which are integers greater than 1 that are not prime. These numbers have more than two distinct positive divisors.

2. Divisor Property: The property dᵢ | (dᵢ₊₁ + dᵢ₊₂) means that dᵢ₊₁ + dᵢ₊₂ is a multiple of dᵢ.

3. Systematic Examination: We will analyze this property systematically for composite numbers starting from the smallest composite number (4) and going upwards.

Let's start the analysis:

- For 𝑛 = 4, the divisors are 1, 2, 4. Here, 1 | (2 + 4), so 4 satisfies the condition.

- For 𝑛 = 6, the divisors are 1, 2, 3, 6. Here, 1 | (2 + 3) and 2 | (3 + 6), so 6 satisfies the condition.

- For 𝑛 = 8, the divisors are 1, 2, 4, 8. Here, 1 | (2 + 4), but 2 ∤ (4 + 8), so 8 does not satisfy the condition.

Let's implement a systematic method to identify such composite numbers up to a reasonable limit (let's say up to 100 for a start) and check if they satisfy the given condition.

The composite integers greater than 1 and up to 100 that satisfy the given property are: 4, 8, 9, 16, 25, 27, 32, 49, 64, and 81.

Each of these numbers has the characteristic that for all their positive divisors d₁, d₂, ..., dₖ (where 1 = d₁ < d₂ < ... < dₖ = 𝑛), the condition dᵢ divides dᵢ₊₁ + dᵢ₊₂ is true for every 1 ≤ i ≤ k − 2.

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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As the parent of a young adult currently half way through their maths undergrad, this kind of fills me with foreboding. I know that proof assistants etc have existed for quite a while now, but what with this and the murmours about OAI's Q* model, I do wonder what will happen to maths as a human endeavour - and as a enabling skill for jobs that can financially support people like my child.

I think its pretty clear that in the coming decade intelligence and cognitive labor is going to become very cheap. So your kid should develop some skills outside of that to stay competitive in the job market.

Any suggestions?

Re: $10M AI Mathematical Olympiad Prize

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes - apologies for the poor copy-paste here!

You can just ask GPT-4 to rewrite it using unicode characters: Rewrite this post using unicode characters: > The IMO are a bit more involved... Answer: > The IMO are a bit more involved... e.g. IMO 2023: > Problem 1. Determine all composite integers n > 1 that satisfy the following property: if d₁, d₂, ..., dₖ are all the positive divisors of n with 1 = d₁ Although ChatGPT 4 makes a pretty decent start on this alread…

Great idea! I never even thought of using GPT-4 to do this.
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