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Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

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Re: Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

#13

This seems risky, Oracle Cloud shuts down VPS they deem to be "inactive", in other words, not under any load or traffic. This would fit that category.

They also shut down the VPSs they deem to be “too active” as in using too much resources, if you’re on the always free tier

Re: Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

#14
Asking again here (different thread) but still about email:

Is making email hosting with cute name still a thing? I own a couple of cute domain names (something like love.com or pretty.com, but obviously not those), so I'm thinking if I can do a hotmail on those domains.

Re: Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

#16
post #6

Mentions, but does not cover, DANE and TLSA. It does cover the stupider alternative, MTA-STS, which is basically DANE for people who are politically against DNSSEC.

I don't know, I find that most people are against DNSSEC for non-political reasons. Did Chrome drop support for political reasons? No.

Covering MTA-STS is practical. The fact they do so wins them points towards having built something that works in the real world.

Re: Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

#17

This seems risky, Oracle Cloud shuts down VPS they deem to be "inactive", in other words, not under any load or traffic. This would fit that category.

They also shut down the VPSs they deem to be “too active” as in using too much resources, if you’re on the always free tier

Though there are no other cloud hosting providers that give you VPS with public IP and 24GB RAM for free. Oracle did shutdown my VM like 2 times in 3 years, but considering I paid them $0 it's borderline awesome service.

Re: Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

#18
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also shut down the VPSs they deem to be “too active” as in using too much resources, if you’re on the always free tier

Though there are no other cloud hosting providers that give you VPS with public IP and 24GB RAM for free. Oracle did shutdown my VM like 2 times in 3 years, but considering I paid them $0 it's borderline awesome service.

Sounds like you got further than me, they simply permabanned my payment information (also cannot complain too much since i didn’t pay a dime either, but seriously?!)

Re: Selfhosted Email by Maddy on Oracle Cloud

#19
post #6

Mentions, but does not cover, DANE and TLSA. It does cover the stupider alternative, MTA-STS, which is basically DANE for people who are politically against DNSSEC.

I don't know, I find that most people are against DNSSEC for non-political reasons. Did Chrome drop support for political reasons? No. Covering MTA-STS is practical. The fact they do so wins them points towards having built something that works in the real world.

Chrome has no business “supporting” DNSSEC in the first place; it should all be handled by the operating system and the resolver. So I don’t think this is a point against DNSSEC.

My guess is that people are against DNSSEC because it’s difficult. You know how people are saying “It’s always DNS”? People hate dealing with DNS, because they don’t understand it. And DNSSEC is then another dimension of difficulty on top of that. But DANE is clearly the technically better solution. I mean, MTA-STS requires a file to be served from an HTTP server to even work. So now you need an HTTP server in addition to your SMTP server!

In any case, you should not, probably, deal with DNSSEC yourself! Note how the article does not cover running your own DNS server, but instead vaguely talks about editing DNS records. And if you have your DNS hosted by somebody else, DNSSEC is their problem. And once you have DNSSEC provided for you, you can use DANE and TLSA records without issue, without having to host an HTTP server for MTA-STS.

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