I should maybe dig a bit deeper into what he is saying, but every-time I get excited about some development I get discouraged by his views. Perhaps they are realistic, but I prefer to dream sometimes.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
LeCun at least knows a lot about AI. Most of the Q* stuff is coming from people who know almost nothing.
But his guesses match the consensus, so it doesn't add to the stuff he's criticizing.
It sounds like you prefer something that's more sensational simply because it's more sensational
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#13Yann has been a refreshing source of reason and common sense with regards to AI safety, regulation and open-source. I wish we had more people like him and less AI doomer cultists.
People like his takes because he gives an authoritative gloss to what they already believe. But his points are usually lacking in argument or rigor. Anyone that essentially expects the public to trust them when it comes to the outcome of AI/AGI should be view with suspicion.
On the contrary, he gives good arguments about why open is safer and closed is more dangerous whereas other side gives, imho, convoluted arguments and asks for them to be proven wrong (as opposed to trying to prove themselves right).
Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*
#14I took an AI course in college back around 2015. Just a bit before AlphaGo.
One project was to implement a simple Q-learning action/value system to play simple games, like Pacman.
The crypto-bros-turned-AGI-experts on twitter are spouting the most uninformed, misguided garbage about this whole thing, it's quite amazing to watch.
And I'm not saying that I am smart or an expert about Q* because I took an introductory college course. I'm saying that even I, someone who knows basically nothing beyond the introductory concept can identity that these people have no clue what they are talking about, and yet the have this incredible talent of speaking in such an authoritative and faux-intelligent tone. It's amazing.
My favorites are the tweets that sound like this:
"So, now we know that [insert something totally wrong]. Well, what if extend that further, by [another totally wrong conclusion]. Here's an explanation of how this all works. A thread, 1/N"
followed by a full thread, images included, of drivel.
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#15It's hard to call anything that comes from LeCun "news": any time you hear of a phenomenon in the ML/AI space, you know pretty much exactly the sentiment he's going to express. His entire brand is "doomers are wrong, you can trust me, I am AI daddy".
Doomers thought GPT-2 was too dangerous to release. I guess one can be Dalio successful by calling doom at every instant like Dalio.
Re: Please ignore the deluge of complete nonsense about Q*
#16I took an AI course in college back around 2015. Just a bit before AlphaGo. One project was to implement a simple Q-learning action/value system to play simple games, like Pacman. The crypto-bros-turned-AGI-experts on twitter are spouting the most uninformed, misguided garbage about this whole thing, it's quite amazing to watch. And I'm not saying that I am smart or an expert about Q* because I took an introductory c…
Exactly, a VC hype.
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#17I'm confused. I thought people were worried about the danger of some AI breakthrough? If researchers at OpenAI have developed an LLM more advanced than GPT4 which can also plan is that not potentially a worrying breakthrough?
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#18It's hard to call anything that comes from LeCun "news": any time you hear of a phenomenon in the ML/AI space, you know pretty much exactly the sentiment he's going to express. His entire brand is "doomers are wrong, you can trust me, I am AI daddy".
Doomers thought GPT-2 was too dangerous to release. I guess one can be Dalio successful by calling doom at every instant like Dalio.
And one can be unfalsifiably successful by using mass media to proclaim safety at every instant. The irony is that if things do fail these kinds of pronouncements can no longer be made using tools like Twitter, etc. on which influencers like LeCun build their brands, since their existence and utility depends on the stability of society.
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#19It's hard to call anything that comes from LeCun "news": any time you hear of a phenomenon in the ML/AI space, you know pretty much exactly the sentiment he's going to express. His entire brand is "doomers are wrong, you can trust me, I am AI daddy".
Doomers thought GPT-2 was too dangerous to release. I guess one can be Dalio successful by calling doom at every instant like Dalio.
Yes, the Anti-doomers will be right many times, and wrong at most once.
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#20I'm confused. I thought people were worried about the danger of some AI breakthrough? If researchers at OpenAI have developed an LLM more advanced than GPT4 which can also plan is that not potentially a worrying breakthrough?
It's just rumours. Everything I've read about that breakthrough sounds about as thoroughly backed in reality as a generic conspiracy theory.
There may be a breakthrough, there may not, but nothing on the topic is convincing or worth reading.