The article seems to ignore the fact that people eat what grows locally. So, India grows a lot of spices, hence the food has those as ingredients. Norway doesn’t, so food is bland. That’s my theory anyway..
Your theory ignores the fact that chili peppers are a new world vegetable.
Do Colder or Warmer Places Eat More Spicy or Bland Food?
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#12What a bizarre classification: unusually specific in some instances, and enormously vague in others - Mughlai vs. South Indian. South Indian food contains a lot of variety - from coastal Andhra, to Chettinad style, to Kerala food, Mysore, Udupi cuisine, and Hyderabad-style, all have varied levels of spices, some South Indian cuisine is spicier than Rajasthani cuisine, for sure. But on a more pertinent note - it may b…
Another theory could be that a lot of Indians are vegetarian and spices make vegetarian foods more palatable. You could eat most meats with only a dash of salt; however vegetarian dishes need to pair spices with the vegetables to make them appealing.
At least...
> however vegetarian dishes need to pair spices with the vegetables to make them appealing.
I know a lot of vegetarians who would very much disagree with this assertion.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your theory ignores the fact that chili peppers are a new world vegetable.
If you read to the end of the article, it seems the study is looking at spice use more broadly and not so much spicyness (ie. heat) specifically. That would explain why east African food that is influenced by spice trade with India ranks so high on the scale compared to west African food.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you read to the end of the article, it seems the study is looking at spice use more broadly and not so much spicyness (ie. heat) specifically. That would explain why east African food that is influenced by spice trade with India ranks so high on the scale compared to west African food.
But the main point being asserted that “people eat what grows locally” is invalidated by the prevalence of chili pepper in various Asian cuisines.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another theory could be that a lot of Indians are vegetarian and spices make vegetarian foods more palatable. You could eat most meats with only a dash of salt; however vegetarian dishes need to pair spices with the vegetables to make them appealing.
I don't think this holds generally, but it might be true for meat-eaters who eat vegetarian and miss the meaty flavors. At least... > however vegetarian dishes need to pair spices with the vegetables to make them appealing. I know a lot of vegetarians who would very much disagree with this assertion.
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#16They put Alabama and New Mexico in the same category? Even when the latter has "red or green [chile]" as the official state question, and has a very different environment due to being in the high desert?
And all of South Africa into a single category? The supplementary materials say "For South Africa in the B&S dataset1, the cookbooks from which the recipes were derived are written by Afrikaans-speaking authors8, so we have used the Afrikaans language to represent this cuisine." but that is only one of many cultures in South Africa, including a large Indian population with spicy food.
This makes me regard the paper with a wary eye.
Ohhh! All of the peer reviews are published! See "Peer Review Information" at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01039-8 . It took a while to get this paper through, with lots of comments about issues.
Reviewer #1, after giving the okay, points out:
"I am aware this was a limitation of the sources upon which the study relied, and that similar biases were present in previous work, and this does not undermine the study overall because it is a “tenative step” towards better understanding, but please make this a very clear and strong caveat in the discussion and conclusions. It may also be leading to the rather odd correlation between GDP and spiciness which I refer to above."
where that correlation above is:
"the rather limited global sampling (see below) may also be playing a role here. For example, off the cuff, adding in say Singapore (which I imagine might have spicy food and be rich) and Nicaragua (which has rather bland food but is poor) could make a difference…I would not suggest the authors try to expand their sample (unless very straightfoward), but please at least discuss this possibility."
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#17This article seems to conflate "spice ingredients" with spicy ingredients. I would have a hard time considering how food from cuisines that use (e.g.) aniseed, caraway, cardamom or poppy seed could be considered "spicy food".
What is it like in other languages?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you read to the end of the article, it seems the study is looking at spice use more broadly and not so much spicyness (ie. heat) specifically. That would explain why east African food that is influenced by spice trade with India ranks so high on the scale compared to west African food.
But the main point being asserted that “people eat what grows locally” is invalidated by the prevalence of chili pepper in various Asian cuisines.
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#19This article seems to conflate "spice ingredients" with spicy ingredients. I would have a hard time considering how food from cuisines that use (e.g.) aniseed, caraway, cardamom or poppy seed could be considered "spicy food".
Mean annual temperature also seems like the wrong thing to consider. The temperature ranges seem more important.
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#20The article seems to ignore the fact that people eat what grows locally. So, India grows a lot of spices, hence the food has those as ingredients. Norway doesn’t, so food is bland. That’s my theory anyway..
Your theory ignores the fact that chili peppers are a new world vegetable.