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Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

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Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

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Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…

they could have been beefing non-publicly for a long time, and might have had many private conversations, probably not very useful to speculate here

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#12
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be many things, like Sam not informing them of the GPTs store launch, or saying he won't launch and then launching. It sucks for openAi, but there's too many hungry hungry competitors salivating at replacing OpenAI so I don't think this will have big king term consequences in the field. I'm curious what sorts of oversight and recourse all the investors (or are they donors?) Have. I imagine there's a lot of peop…

They don’t have investors, it’s a non profit. The “won’t anyone think of the needs of the elite wealthy investor class” that has run through the 11 threads on this topic is pretty baffling I have to admit.

It’s a nonprofit that controls a for-profit company, which has other investors in addition to the non-profit.

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#13
post #9

What are the odds Sam can work the phones this weekend and have $10B lined up by Monday for a new AI company which will take all of the good talent from OpenAI?

Honestly? If even a tenth of Sam’s reported connectedness / reality distortion field are true to life… very good odds.

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#15
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be many things, like Sam not informing them of the GPTs store launch, or saying he won't launch and then launching. It sucks for openAi, but there's too many hungry hungry competitors salivating at replacing OpenAI so I don't think this will have big king term consequences in the field. I'm curious what sorts of oversight and recourse all the investors (or are they donors?) Have. I imagine there's a lot of peop…

They don’t have investors, it’s a non profit. The “won’t anyone think of the needs of the elite wealthy investor class” that has run through the 11 threads on this topic is pretty baffling I have to admit.

> They don’t have investors

OpenAI has investors [0].

[0] https://openai.com/our-structure

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#16

Here's what I don't understand. There clearly were tensions between the for and not-for growth factions, but the Dev Day is being cited as a 'last straw'. It was a product launch. Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months. They should have at the very least been privy to the plan, if not outright sanctioned it. Seems like before launch would have been the time…

they could have been beefing non-publicly for a long time, and might have had many private conversations, probably not very useful to speculate here

Not useful at all.. but it sure is fun! This is gonna be my whole dang weekend.

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#17
Man this still seems crazy to me. The idea that this tension between commercial/non-commercial aspirations got so bad they felt the nuclear option of a surprise firing of Altman was the only move available doesn't seem plausible to me.

I believe this decision was ego and vanity driven with this post-hoc rationalization that it was because of the mission of "benefiting humanity."

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#18
post #9

What are the odds Sam can work the phones this weekend and have $10B lined up by Monday for a new AI company which will take all of the good talent from OpenAI?

Why would the good talent leave? Are they all a "family" and best buddies with Sam?

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#19
post #9

What are the odds Sam can work the phones this weekend and have $10B lined up by Monday for a new AI company which will take all of the good talent from OpenAI?

Why would the good talent leave? Are they all a "family" and best buddies with Sam?

A lot of them have already left this morning. idk for sure why but a good bet is that they are more on board with Sam's vision of pushing forward AI than the safetyist vision.

Re: Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI

#20
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Ilya, and the board, should have been well aware of what was being released on that day for months Not necessarily, and that may speak to the part of the Board's announcement that Sam was not candid

I can’t imagine an organization where this wouldn’t have come up on some roadmap or prioritization meeting, etc. How could leadership not know what the org is working on?! They’re not that big.

Board is not exactly leadership. They meet infrequently and get updates directly from management, they don't go around asking employees what they're working on
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