Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement • Hacker News Board

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by gzer0 » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:53 AM UTC

wyy1995 wrote: post #8

Maybe after Sam Altman and Greg Brockman leave, people will realize how important they are to OpenAI.

Possibility of @karpathy leaving and joining them to form a viable competitor?

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by BryantD » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:54 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #2

It appears the reporting was accurate: Ilya staged a coup. Notably, Sam/Greg do not guess or insinuate why he did a coup.

This is too incomplete to reach any conclusions. The board made claims about a specific class of activity. They may or may not have been more specific in their conversations with Sam and Greg. Either way the credibility accusation needs more than just a timeline to refute it.

Maybe it was a coup as per some reporting; maybe it wasn’t. I’m reluctant to make a decision here based on who got to the reporters first. There is some asymmetry in media savvy between Sam and the board.

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by cryptoz » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:54 AM UTC

"more to say about what's next" in Sam's tweet earlier, and now,

"greater things are coming"

huh, do they already have a plan or is this just generic optimism?

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by rvz » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

Caesar stabbed right in the back and the coup had been made clear by their closest founders.

Jealously and greed strikes once again, someone was more greedier than the rest.

Also why are all the links and sources from Twitter / X? We were told repeatedly it was dead? It seems that this drama suggests that it isn't.

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by aidaman » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

1) What

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by drcode » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

yunichel wrote: post #9

Ilya is an idealist. I respect it

we don't know anything right now

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by throwaxcvxvzxcv » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

lannisterstark wrote: post #5

adamdegas wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently due to Sam's ego and wanting to use OpenAI to achieve a Musk-like cult status: https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/17xoact/sam_altman_...

Source: trust me bro, I'm a random reddit user.

It's harder to tell now, but from a timeline of events, that supposed OpenAI insider on Reddit had key details of the 'palace coup' that reputable journalists like Kara Swisher (and now a primary source of Greg Brockman) have largely confirmed.

I think the Reddit user is legitimate.

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by 0xChain » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

lannisterstark wrote: post #5

adamdegas wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently due to Sam's ego and wanting to use OpenAI to achieve a Musk-like cult status: https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/17xoact/sam_altman_...

Source: trust me bro, I'm a random reddit user.

I mean Ilya said it himself in a roundabout way https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by dougmwne » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:57 AM UTC

cryptoz wrote: post #13

"more to say about what's next" in Sam's tweet earlier, and now, "greater things are coming" huh, do they already have a plan or is this just generic optimism?

Clearly they will have a new AI startup by Monday.

Re: Sam Altman and Greg Brockman Joint Statement

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Post by yunichel » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 4:58 AM UTC

wyy1995 wrote: post #8

Maybe after Sam Altman and Greg Brockman leave, people will realize how important they are to OpenAI.

Meh, I think Ilya and John Schulman (TRPO, PPO, RLHF) are way more important. There are many others of course