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HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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It really surprises me that the Happy Hacking Keyboard brand has stuck with their key layout. For a more conventional layout one might consider keychron. https://www.keychron.com/

Why would anyone need a capslock?

To rebind it to Escape of course. :D Works wonders if you're using vim or vim mode somewhere.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

#12
post #6

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…

I think part of it is the switches. They use Topre capacitive switches which have a very distinct key feeling than your average mechanical switches made by Cherry (and its clones) or Alps.

RealForce (the keyboard brand from Topre) now have their own line of capacitive keyboards, but a while back HHKB was _the_ capacitive keyboard, or at least around the people I know.

Which makes it very interesting that this new model is using Cherry-type linear switches instead of Topre.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

#13
post #8

It really surprises me that the Happy Hacking Keyboard brand has stuck with their key layout. For a more conventional layout one might consider keychron. https://www.keychron.com/

Why would anyone need a capslock?

Elsewhere in the comments, someone said "I want dedicated keys for arrows / function keys, I use these frequently enough that I don't want to hold a modifier".

Some programming languages type constants in UPPER_SNAKE_CASE. -- The same rationale applies: it's easy to understand why someone would prefer to avoid having to hold a modifier key for that. -- I quite like Caps Word as an improvement on CapsLock https://docs.qmk.fm/#/feature_caps_word

Though, I'd agree that CapsLock isn't important enough to put where it is on a traditional keyboard. (Nor does the spacebar need to be 6 keys wide..).

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

#14
post #6

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…

> I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago

and could use it to this day I guess. Like carpenter may use proven tools then you can be accustomed to the feeling and layout of the tool you use everyday. I still have my first hhkb which I bought almost 10 years ago, works like on day one, even I am usually using newer hhkb wireless model these days. If I am not mistaken before buying first model I read article about someone who had similar experience like I now.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

#15
post #6

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…

I've found that overwhelmingly it's brand perception, fashion and trends that build these situations more than anything else. Add to that the situation where people have spent hundreds of dollars on something and generally feel like they will have to justify it. It must be great, right? They spent hundreds of dollars, of course it's great!

I bought a mechanical keyboard (ErgoDox EZ) for more than $300 after import taxes and it wasn't remarkably better than anything else. I don't use it nowadays, I just use "classic" models from either Logitech or Microsoft (or even a lower-status brand) for the equivalent of ~$13-$17 a pop. I bought several at once but they've never broken so far so I just have a few in storage.

P.S. I had problems with wrist pain and stuff before I bought the ErgoDox which was one of the reasons I bought it. It only got worse after I started using it and the only thing that helped was voice coding and not using a keyboard for some time. After that I started using these bland, uninteresting keyboards and I've never really had the same issues again.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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post #6

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I never understood why HHKB was popular, and where it got its fame. I saw my roomate already having it 10 years ago, I find cool the minimalist aspect, but why such keyboard with basic design made it so far ? Also, on a personal note, having a 65% keyboard now for 3 years, I'll go back to a 75% keyboard. I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your tim…

> I think functions keys and arrows are used way too frequently to spend your time using shortcuts

65% keyboards tend to put those shortcuts where you have to use a pinky finger to access those keys.

Whereas, keyboards much smaller than ~60% tend to use thumbs instead to access those keys, and put a big emphasis on reducing movement from home row & bringing the full functionality of the keyboard to within reach of the hands there.

The keyboards which make more use of layers put the layer keys in a nicer spot than those 60% keyboards.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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post #16

Does anyone know if there are any portable bluetooth keyboards (think usable in the train) with a trackpoint? The only ones I can find have a trackpad, but I think a trackpoint would actually be a lot nicer.

You can make any USB keyboard a BT keyboard with a USB2BT (from Japan) and a battery. If it has LEDs you might have to disable or dim those (I had to enable tachyon mode on my keyboard).

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

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post #16

Does anyone know if there are any portable bluetooth keyboards (think usable in the train) with a trackpoint? The only ones I can find have a trackpad, but I think a trackpoint would actually be a lot nicer.

Isn’t this keyboard exactly that? It has Bluetooth and isn’t any wider than your laptop already is. If it’s too thick due to the mechanical switches, the ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II might be an option.

Re: HHKB Studio: The New Happy Hacking Keyboard with TrackPoint

#20
post #16

Does anyone know if there are any portable bluetooth keyboards (think usable in the train) with a trackpoint? The only ones I can find have a trackpad, but I think a trackpoint would actually be a lot nicer.

- ThinkPad TrackPoint Keyboard II Bluetooth ?

It's pretty close to full size, but very slim and light weight.

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