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Get Offended More (2020)

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Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#11
I noticed that there is a finite amount of certain emotions I can sustain.

I managed to trick myself into feeling sympathy ( e.g. for the victims ) in many cases people demand my anger, but I have not found a replacement for being offended.

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#12

My progress began when I stopped putting up with some jerk professors in my department and decided to just do what I wanted to do. The moment I stopped justifying the way they were treating me I realized just what an unhealthy dynamic I had put up with. Maybe I needed to get seriously offended in order to completely be done with that.

The thing is, you were probably getting offended often but not identifying your emotion, so it comes out in other weird ways. By identifying what was going on internally that you were surpressing, you were able to escape the toxic patterns you were contributing to. When you get good at that you can just share the emotion rather than acting it out too, which results in really positive and effective conflict resolution

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#13
post #9

>A shitstorm ensued, the Church got shutdown-offended, and Galileo spent the rest of his life under house arrest. We’re so offended, we can’t even disagree, we shut shit down. This is really bad history in a very relevant way to the topic. The Church wasn't really offended, they disagreed. The church in that case included most scientists at the time. This was because Galileo's theory didn't actually check out at all…

Author here— interesting! Mind sharing some stuff where I can learn more about this?

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#15
My motto is "Follow the Dread". If I dread public speaking I should do it, if I dread setting up IPsec VPNs I should do more of it, if I dread working with money and run a business as opposed to working solely as a technical person I should do it, so on and so forth.

"The Dread" is a good north star for discovering what to improve next, since most Dreads are somewhat common/shared among peers, communities and colleagues. Being able to do something nobody likes to do is a good edge against the world.

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#16
post #9

>A shitstorm ensued, the Church got shutdown-offended, and Galileo spent the rest of his life under house arrest. We’re so offended, we can’t even disagree, we shut shit down. This is really bad history in a very relevant way to the topic. The Church wasn't really offended, they disagreed. The church in that case included most scientists at the time. This was because Galileo's theory didn't actually check out at all…

Author here— interesting! Mind sharing some stuff where I can learn more about this?

Not the person you replied to, but there's some evidence that Galileo's persecution was due to a personal spat between him and Pope Urban, and the latter's insecurities, rather than philosophical differences.

See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair#Historians_and_...

Also, reflecting on your other example (Damore) there are plenty of situations where it's possible to disagree and be offended.

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#17
post #2

Oof please don’t. Unless of course I can say that this very much offends me…

It's a tongue-in-cheek title. The author proposes something akin to cognitive behavioral therapy, to voluntarily seek out 'offending' situations to learn to behave in disagreement mode instead of offended mode.

Mea culpa

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#18
Am I misreading something or is this just a way to stay stuck in perpetual internet flamewars?

If anything I feel that the stereotypical “terminally online” person might try to get offended a bit less.

(That person used to be me, I’m not pointing at some outgroup)

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#19

My motto is "Follow the Dread". If I dread public speaking I should do it, if I dread setting up IPsec VPNs I should do more of it, if I dread working with money and run a business as opposed to working solely as a technical person I should do it, so on and so forth. "The Dread" is a good north star for discovering what to improve next, since most Dreads are somewhat common/shared among peers, communities and colleag…

This aligns with my motto of “10% beyond comfort” where you push yourself out of your comfort zone 10% (or more) and learn. You get the dread. You get the “I’m not qualified” vibe. You get the experience. Next time won’t be nearly as bad and a few times more and you’ll be comfortable. A dozen more and you might become an expert. You may actually find you love it.

To the articles point though is that you can be offended and feel anxiety and dread without having to completely shut down the entire discussion. This being in your 10% beyond comfort zone, this is where you - in your offended state - should actually be the most open to learning. Why did they say that? Why do they think that way? Is there reasoning or is it impulsive? How to I articulate an argument for my side when they behave this way?

This is how adults handle being offended during a discussion. You can even voice that you are offended by the remarks. What you don’t have is carte blanche to sling assaults and prevent freedom of speech.

Re: Get Offended More (2020)

#20

Am I misreading something or is this just a way to stay stuck in perpetual internet flamewars? If anything I feel that the stereotypical “terminally online” person might try to get offended a bit less . (That person used to be me, I’m not pointing at some outgroup)

I thought so at first, but no, that's not what the author is after. The article is about _recognizing the experience of being offended_. Near the end, the author says what to do with that recognition:

> By getting offended more, you actually get to figure out who you are and what you care about. You react less, respond more. You develop real compassion. You practice alchemy upon yourself.

I think that "reacting less" would prevent flamewars.

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