I've been using Wayland KDE on my gaming machine recently, it somehow made my cursor movement stutter. Switching to KDE X11 or Gnome Wayland solved the issue.
I hope they address this kind of thing prior to making it a default.
KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default
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#12I've been using Wayland KDE on my gaming machine recently, it somehow made my cursor movement stutter. Switching to KDE X11 or Gnome Wayland solved the issue. I hope they address this kind of thing prior to making it a default.
Is it a Nvidia? They are notoriously buggy.
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#13> - Plasma's start time is up to a few seconds faster. On the one hand, this is impressive. On the other, this is a vague indictment of modern software. Plasma logs you in, draws a background and the taskbar thing across the screen. There shouldn't be seconds involved in that to shave. This must be a recurring feature, every few years someone goes through and fixes up load times.
They mentioned that the culprit for those additional load times was loading all the search backend for their application launcher which they deferred to the moment when there was actually the first search query (still shouldn't take multiple seconds)
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#14KDE is pretty feature-rich, but it is just ugly. Look at the poor use of spacing/margins, the ugly black & white icons, the ugly font, the square edges, and just the overall look & feel. It needs a major face-lift. I dislike the attempts to dumb down GNOME but KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to.
unironically if that's what you're complaining about, you might have liked kde3 a lot (yes, it's been 15 years and i still miss it).
anyway, kde is very configurable so most likely you might bend it to your liking, had you been somehow forced into kde.
> KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to
have you considered XFCE ? to me it's the best so far: it does all the things i need, it's fast and it isn't dumbed down like gnome.
It's not on wayland yet, but frankly I don't care much about the X11 vs Wayland debacle (though i slightly side with Xorg). Essentially I run whatever XFCE needs.
When XFCE will run on wayland, I'll run on wayland I guess.
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#15KDE is pretty feature-rich, but it is just ugly. Look at the poor use of spacing/margins, the ugly black & white icons, the ugly font, the square edges, and just the overall look & feel. It needs a major face-lift. I dislike the attempts to dumb down GNOME but KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to.
Excellent spacing: no useless wide margins. Stylish icons that can blend in with various themes, which are clear and easily distinguishable. Font: most distro's actually default to Noto, not KDEs own. But you know what: this you can change, KDE didn't remove any and all options for customisation after all. You can pry Plasma out my cold, dead hands. Gnome, Macos, and Windows: now that's amateur hour.
To be honest, there are many places in the "refreshed" Breeze look'n'feel and the Kirigami suite of apps in general that could really use some margins. It doesn't need a lot of padding, just a pixel here and a pixel there - not to make it less dense, but to make it look cleaner and consistent. To my eye, screenshots from the blog post look worse in this regard than Plasma 5.
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#16KDE is pretty feature-rich, but it is just ugly. Look at the poor use of spacing/margins, the ugly black & white icons, the ugly font, the square edges, and just the overall look & feel. It needs a major face-lift. I dislike the attempts to dumb down GNOME but KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to.
I absolutely agree. It is functional and stable, but my gosh I can’t stand the design. The oversized top decoration for windows as well as the extremely poorly rendered pop-up for hovering over elements on the task bar.
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#17KDE is pretty feature-rich, but it is just ugly. Look at the poor use of spacing/margins, the ugly black & white icons, the ugly font, the square edges, and just the overall look & feel. It needs a major face-lift. I dislike the attempts to dumb down GNOME but KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to.
I'm gonna be very controversial here, but the problem is that the vast majority of Linux users are blind to aesthetics and design. Perhaps the vast majority of people are. Mind you, being blind to something does not mean it does not exist.
Just look at the desktop wallpaper or any font choice of the average person. It's no wonder Comic Sans and Papyrus are the most common fonts in the world, even for formal business documents.
Which is perfectly fine, and design challenged people would enjoy a well-designed desktop environment as well, the issue is that they are ready to defend bad design choices to the death. So mention KDE having lower design standards than GNOME and you get a ton of people telling you "it looks fine to me, I don't know what you're moaning about."
You'd get the same answer telling the average person that, no, Comic Sans is not appropriate for an obituary.
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That said, KDE is slowly growing on me, but the default GNOME look is much more slick, even though GTK4 does 1/20th of what QT does. All modern GTK4/Adwaita apps are a flat, slick blob of grey list widgets.
Colour theory and the use of accent colours or non-monochrome icons is unknown to the average GTK developer.
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#18KDE is pretty feature-rich, but it is just ugly. Look at the poor use of spacing/margins, the ugly black & white icons, the ugly font, the square edges, and just the overall look & feel. It needs a major face-lift. I dislike the attempts to dumb down GNOME but KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to.
Absolutely. It's not just that, it's also how it's different in every app.
KDE (perhaps surprisingly) does have a design group, but I have to imagine them not being taken seriously in the slightest.
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#19Does screen capture actually work reliably yet? I hope they leave X11 as an option until it does.
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#20KDE is pretty feature-rich, but it is just ugly. Look at the poor use of spacing/margins, the ugly black & white icons, the ugly font, the square edges, and just the overall look & feel. It needs a major face-lift. I dislike the attempts to dumb down GNOME but KDE being ugly makes it really hard to switch to.
I'm gonna be very controversial here, but the problem is that the vast majority of Linux users are blind to aesthetics and design. Perhaps the vast majority of people are. Mind you, being blind to something does not mean it does not exist. Just look at the desktop wallpaper or any font choice of the average person. It's no wonder Comic Sans and Papyrus are the most common fonts in the world, even for formal business…
You're confusing design with aesthetics. KDE design is fine. It doesn't chase the latest fads in GUI appearance which rightly makes it more usable than its peers which seem hellbent on reinventing conventions every few years for superficial reasons. This isn't just to the benefit of rigid nerds, a lot of people grew up with classic MacOS and Windows and expect some basic functionallity.