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At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk's rush to Mars

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Re: At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk's rush to Mars

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Post by mgiannopoulos »

dwighttk wrote: post #3

> Other major space companies have also failed to report annual injury data to OSHA in some recent years. This is all about higher than average injury rates at SpaceX, but just tucks this in after comparing the injury rates

In defence of Reuters, articles about space companies without “Musk” in the headline do not get so many clicks. /s

Re: At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk's rush to Mars

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Post by fernandotakai »

tekla wrote: post #11

I'm still unsure as to why people are blaming Elon when I've been continuously told on this site that Glenn Shotwell is running everything.

when bad things happen, elon is responsible.

when good things happen, elon had nothing to do with it, he's useless and only do harm.

Re: At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk's rush to Mars

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Post by mschuster91 »

yreg wrote: post #13
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #10

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That's always the case with space industry (or even any heavy industry), no?

In Germany, workplace injuries have gone continuously down over the decades [1], and at 1,827 per 1000 workers it's significantly less than the US with 2,7 [2]. The difference is pretty certainly due to way less regulations and enforcement in the US combined with way greedier employers.

[1] https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/6051/umfrage/...

[2] https://www.bls.gov/charts/injuries-and-illnesses/total-nonf...

Re: At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk's rush to Mars

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Post by gooseus »

Eumenes wrote: post #8

A worthy sacrifice for the advancement of humankind

If only Elon was actually advancing actual humanity, and not just his own narrow idea of what humanity should be.

Also, trying to establish a self-sustaining base on Mars right now is short-sighted and a tremendous waste of energy and material.

Also also, how you do a thing is (often) as important as doing the thing itself, we're still suffering the consequences of last centuries megalomaniacal claims to be advancing humanity at the expense of a few people.

And just in case someone mentions something like D-Day, I doubt any of Elon's workers signed on to sacrifice their bodies to "save humanity" in the same way the Allies signed up (or consented to be drafted) to save Europe.

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Post by usrusr »

robertlagrant wrote: post #7
FrustratedMonky wrote: post #5

In a lot of US manufacturing plants, this stuff would get you fired. How does SpaceX get to skirt regulations?

Happy to be corrected here with citations, but I'm not sure that regulations are actually what get people fired. It's company policy.

Corporate policy that implements regulations would be my guess. Or, in this case, does not.

Other countries are far more into preemptive enforcement of regulations than the USA, but even there things tends to only get better before they get worse. Tesla Grünheide has already racked up at least one amputation, and that's a factory, not a place where they invent new kinds of rockets.

Re: At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk's rush to Mars

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Post by yetihehe »

mschuster91 wrote: post #17
yreg wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's always the case with space industry (or even any heavy industry), no?

In Germany, workplace injuries have gone continuously down over the decades [1], and at 1,827 per 1000 workers it's significantly less than the US with 2,7 [2]. The difference is pretty certainly due to way less regulations and enforcement in the US combined with way greedier employers. [1] https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/6051/umfrage/... [2] https://www.bls.gov/charts/injuries-and-illnesses/total-nonf…

For US readers - replace comma with dot, Germans (and most other europeans) use floats with comma.
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