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GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

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Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

#11

It’s amazing how bad the competition is. The A17 pro has 2 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. The Google G3 has 9 cores of 3 different types, the fastest being slower than Apple’s performance cores, the most efficient being less efficient than apple’s efficiency cores. And it’s a phone so you don’t take advantage of the extra parallelism. You just get the worst of both worlds. no wonder these android phones ha…

here have some Qualcomm Kool-Aid to go with that sweet Apple juice :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vh7_n_OPs

Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

#13
post #8

Does apple document exactly how many actual true cores there are inside their GPUs? It is always confusing they say "40 core GPU" but I assume these are shader cores which each inside them can execute (per the video) "many thousands" of parallel execution paths. So how does one translate to an equivalent in "CUDA cores" type terminology?

> So how does one translate to an equivalent in "CUDA cores" type terminology?

I don’t really think we can, even if we knew exactly what is in a M3 GPU core, which we don’t. Both architectures are very different, and different again from AMD GPUs. We have to count Tflops.

Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

#14
post #2

I skimmed the video but a lot of it sounded more like advertising than technical information to me. On the other hand, I'm looking forward to watching the Asahi folks crack this stuff open.

It's one of ̶W̶W̶D̶C̶ developer sessions. Some of them at WWDC are basic 101 introduction for rookies.

There are advanced (for me) sessions like:

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10127/

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10042/

Although it's true that they won't discuss at hardware level.

Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

#15

It’s amazing how bad the competition is. The A17 pro has 2 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. The Google G3 has 9 cores of 3 different types, the fastest being slower than Apple’s performance cores, the most efficient being less efficient than apple’s efficiency cores. And it’s a phone so you don’t take advantage of the extra parallelism. You just get the worst of both worlds. no wonder these android phones ha…

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Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

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post #2

I skimmed the video but a lot of it sounded more like advertising than technical information to me. On the other hand, I'm looking forward to watching the Asahi folks crack this stuff open.

It is an overview of what is new about their hardware and technical advice (but not overly technical) on how to maximize the GPUs performance. I watched the full video and thought it was excellent. I wish other CPU/GPU manufacturers made technical overview videos like this. I've never programmed graphics targeting metal before, but I feel much more inclined after watching this so I guess it was good advertising.

I didn't watch too many developer conference, but IHMO the Apple WWDC sessions are fairly easy and enjoyable for learning. especially they provide full transcript.

Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

#17
post #8

Does apple document exactly how many actual true cores there are inside their GPUs? It is always confusing they say "40 core GPU" but I assume these are shader cores which each inside them can execute (per the video) "many thousands" of parallel execution paths. So how does one translate to an equivalent in "CUDA cores" type terminology?

Each Apple core (heh) has 128 FPUs so 40 cores would be akin to 5120 CUDA "cores".

Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

#18
post #3

Really awful narration with overuse of unnecessary pitch glides

It is pretty funny how amateur a multi trillion dollar can be, its so distracting and sounds like an 80's instructional VHS.

the narrator is an actual engineer, not a television personality

Re: GPU advancements in M3 and A17 Pro [video]

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It is pretty funny how amateur a multi trillion dollar can be, its so distracting and sounds like an 80's instructional VHS.

you could never hear the audio that cleanly on a VHS even with HiFi tracks.

It is about attitude in voice, not about audio quality. It is very noticeable at 1.5x speed, 1x speed is too slow anyway with infinite pauses for such low density technical details.
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