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System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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In my opinion, if you have the money, a Razer or Asus laptop is the highest quality machine that you can get to run Linux. Of course there is also Framework, but those are not as well built in my opinion. Personally, I have the new Blade 14 and it is great. Large trackpad, 16:10, 6 hours of battery life (pretty good for linux) and an RTX 4070. That said, it is absurdly expensive.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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> Among other things, this means that modern forms of suspend work out of the box

That sounds very promising. That has always been a major annoyance to me. I don't think i have every owned a laptop with linux where I actually trusted that it would still have battery the day after if I just closed the lid.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still using 1080p monitors in 2023, with the exception of my Surface Book 2 which I don't use nearly as much (I prioritize my personal desktop way more). I game on 1080p I just don't have desk space for 32" 4k monitors, and I dont see any value in having 4k under a 14" monitor.

There are resolutions between 4k and 1080p, as well as monitor sizes bellow 32

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Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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https://system76.com/laptops/lemur : > Display 14.1″ 1920×1080 FHD, Matte Finish I'll pass. It has a 16:9 display.

I'm still using 1080p monitors in 2023, with the exception of my Surface Book 2 which I don't use nearly as much (I prioritize my personal desktop way more). I game on 1080p I just don't have desk space for 32" 4k monitors, and I dont see any value in having 4k under a 14" monitor.

I agree, but the complaint is about aspect ratio, or more specifically about the wasted space / unnecessarily smaller screen within the chassis.

Similar to op, I won't buy a 16:9 laptop anymore. It can be 1920x1200, though, that's still sufficient for smaller laptops.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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$1150 for an 8GB PC laptop is very high. It’s the price of a 13” MacBook Air with twice the storage. A better option would be a low-end Dell that works just as well with Linux and costs perhaps half as much. I am yet to see a low-end Dell that doesn’t excel with Linux.

Upgrading beyond the base spec is a very different game between the two: a base 13" MBA with maxed memory and disk (24GB/2TB) is $2300, whereas machine with the same upgrades is $1470.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still using 1080p monitors in 2023, with the exception of my Surface Book 2 which I don't use nearly as much (I prioritize my personal desktop way more). I game on 1080p I just don't have desk space for 32" 4k monitors, and I dont see any value in having 4k under a 14" monitor.

I agree, but the complaint is about aspect ratio, or more specifically about the wasted space / unnecessarily smaller screen within the chassis. Similar to op, I won't buy a 16:9 laptop anymore. It can be 1920x1200, though, that's still sufficient for smaller laptops.

1920x1200 is 16:10. Huge difference from 16:9, amazingly enough.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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Please someone show this to the Tuxedo guys, as their supplier is the same (Clevo), but apparently it IS possible to get the Lenovo-style 6-button cursor arrangement in this form factor, and as a bonus, with separate Home/End/Ins/Del! I will never buy a laptop without this.

Does System76 ship laptops with an ISO keyboard layout? I don't see this as a configuration option.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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post #12

In my opinion, if you have the money, a Razer or Asus laptop is the highest quality machine that you can get to run Linux. Of course there is also Framework, but those are not as well built in my opinion. Personally, I have the new Blade 14 and it is great. Large trackpad, 16:10, 6 hours of battery life (pretty good for linux) and an RTX 4070. That said, it is absurdly expensive.

In my experience both ASUS and Razer are terrible brands. Poor support. Poor build qualities. Getting drivers for Razer is like pulling teeth, especially for previous gen hardware. Keyboard lighting controls for Razer requiring cloud connected software. Hard pass on both for me.

Re: System76's Lemur Pro Laptop Is Just a Nice Linux Laptop

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post #12

In my opinion, if you have the money, a Razer or Asus laptop is the highest quality machine that you can get to run Linux. Of course there is also Framework, but those are not as well built in my opinion. Personally, I have the new Blade 14 and it is great. Large trackpad, 16:10, 6 hours of battery life (pretty good for linux) and an RTX 4070. That said, it is absurdly expensive.

In my experience both ASUS and Razer are terrible brands. Poor support. Poor build qualities. Getting drivers for Razer is like pulling teeth, especially for previous gen hardware. Keyboard lighting controls for Razer requiring cloud connected software. Hard pass on both for me.

I think you are correct about the history of Razer products, but this latest line up has been very solid. I had issues with the first laptop I got. It turned out to be a software issue and I got support within a day and they patched the problem within a week. I should also add that they have battery limiting features now and a two year battery warranty. Those two improvements protect you from 90% of the bad experiences people report with these laptops.

Asus I have had consistently bad experiences with and that is why I tried Razer. Of course this is all just my personal experience and I doubt either is perfect.

As far as needing cloud connected software to configure Razer hardware: that is simply false. The laptop is configured via an embedded usb interface that you can send reports to in Linux. There are open source projects that make this particularly easy to do.

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