I wonder if they are going to do one for 2023?
I would be eager to see if Rust starts to show up on the list too.
Well, if the survey is conducted by JetBrains, I guess it's still far down the list?
Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
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Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#12Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture. As a concept, they have been one of the most toxic concepts to be released on the tech world. I remember a conference where some influential person had a slide "if your service doesn't fit on a slide, it's too big". I've seen literal devastation in multiple companies coming from inept technical leaders who drank the microservices k…
Having worked on a greenfield microservices project, the joins over the network problem is real (and may indicate bad domain splits).
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#13Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture. As a concept, they have been one of the most toxic concepts to be released on the tech world. I remember a conference where some influential person had a slide "if your service doesn't fit on a slide, it's too big". I've seen literal devastation in multiple companies coming from inept technical leaders who drank the microservices k…
SOA is a specific architecture, not a generic pattern name.
It implies things such as an ESB, etc. microservice is a distinct architecture.
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#14This is a sub-section of the survey, shown only to people who responded with `Yes` to the `Do you develop microservices?` question. I still don't understand how 19% of respondents picked 'Monolith' as a system design approach. Perhaps they coexist?
Perhaps more people have read and understand the "4+1 architectural view model" paper than I had hitherto realised.
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would be eager to see if Rust starts to show up on the list too.
Well, if the survey is conducted by JetBrains, I guess it's still far down the list?
Why? They have a (new) Rust IDE, and have had by far the best Rust support in any other IDE for years now.
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#16Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture. As a concept, they have been one of the most toxic concepts to be released on the tech world. I remember a conference where some influential person had a slide "if your service doesn't fit on a slide, it's too big". I've seen literal devastation in multiple companies coming from inept technical leaders who drank the microservices k…
SOA is a specific architecture, not a generic pattern name. It implies things such as an ESB, etc. microservice is a distinct architecture.
Microservices is what you get when you couple the four views explained in the "4+1 architectural view model" paper. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a bad idea, typically.
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#17Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture. As a concept, they have been one of the most toxic concepts to be released on the tech world. I remember a conference where some influential person had a slide "if your service doesn't fit on a slide, it's too big". I've seen literal devastation in multiple companies coming from inept technical leaders who drank the microservices k…
> Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture.
Thanks for saying this out loud.
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#18So 63% of market still to be captured by microservices. I think it is great for boosting profit at cloud vendors, APM vendors, service mesh and so on. If I had made big tech level money, there is no better time to retire and move away from tech for me.
I'm taking time out of the industry and doing other stuff. When it finally works out that it's not a viable approach for perhaps 90% of the products out there I'm going to come back and sell exit strategies.
Do we really want another religious war over microservices vs monoliths?
Count me out. I'll adopt each for appropriate use cases.
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#19Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture. As a concept, they have been one of the most toxic concepts to be released on the tech world. I remember a conference where some influential person had a slide "if your service doesn't fit on a slide, it's too big". I've seen literal devastation in multiple companies coming from inept technical leaders who drank the microservices k…
> Microservices can be done right - but then they're just Service Oriented Architecture. Thanks for saying this out loud.
Silly me always thought Microservices was just a new word for SOA. What was the difference supposed to be?
Re: Microservices – State of Developer Ecosystem 2022 (JetBrains)
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm taking time out of the industry and doing other stuff. When it finally works out that it's not a viable approach for perhaps 90% of the products out there I'm going to come back and sell exit strategies.
Do we really want another religious war over microservices vs monoliths? Count me out. I'll adopt each for appropriate use cases.
> Do we really want another religious war over microservices vs monoliths?
I guess not since microsevices have won already.