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Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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The answer is burried, here is the only real reason given: When MacAskill replied: “The main reason for only a small percentage [being published] was diminishing interest [from the public]...” This is insane. They have 99% of the leak under lock and key and they say the reason is because no one wants to see it? My guess is its a gag order/request, if they publish they will lose other access or something but why would…

Remember, the purpose of journalism is to make money - news is a product like any other. A story people aren't as interested in anymore is a story that doesn't make as much revenue.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #6

> Why was only 1% of the documents published, in the end? “The documents are not like the WikiLeaks ones from the US state department, which were written by diplomats and, for the most part, easily understandable,” said Ewen MacAskill. “The Snowden files are largely technical, with lots of codewords and jargon that is hard to decipher. There are pages and pages of that which the public would not be interested in. The…

Yes, wouldn't the document still be used against him even if he just leaked to journalists.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #10

> the files are in the New York Times office What a sham. The NYT has openly said many times that it allows the US Government to determine what is "fit to print". How did it come to this? I strongly believe there was some level of collusion between Greenwald & the USG. How else did he get to have a successful media career in the West, while fellow publisher/journalist Assange rots in prison? https://www.nytimes.com/2…

Greenwald moved to Brazil, and his partner was subjected to extraordinary detention while travelling. Greenwald was just smarter than Assange at avoiding traps.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #12

The answer is burried, here is the only real reason given: When MacAskill replied: “The main reason for only a small percentage [being published] was diminishing interest [from the public]...” This is insane. They have 99% of the leak under lock and key and they say the reason is because no one wants to see it? My guess is its a gag order/request, if they publish they will lose other access or something but why would…

Remember, the purpose of journalism is to make money - news is a product like any other. A story people aren't as interested in anymore is a story that doesn't make as much revenue.

News is actually a loss-leader - either for ads or for influence.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #8

Journalistic integrity balancing with the national security interests of the most powerful nation on the planet is complicated. I am comfortable trusting the NYT to do their job. I hope that eventually all the technical papers eventually are available out of nerdy curiosity, but I’d prefer that be through declassification and not espionage.

> national security interests of the most powerful nation on the planet is complicated

It's actually the opposite

National security of least powerfull countries, like Korea, is most complicated. They are most at risk and least likely to harm others.

The most powerfull nation on earth is the opposite, it is not really in danger, its very secure, and presents the most danger to others - whether through ignorance or stupidity or malice.

So we should actually be publishing almost everything from US/Russia/China because they often ruin millions of lives, but in practice ofcourse we do the opposite.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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Snowden made a mistake in not dumping the whole archive to Wikileaks as was done with the US State Department cables and the CIA's Vault 7 files.

I think there's probably a lot more in those files that's of great embarrassment not just to the NSA and the US government in general (such as proof that it was conducting an illegal warrantless mass surveillance program in violation of US law) - but also to their collaborators in the private tech sector who seem to have been quite active participants in the program.

For example, one of the most revealing revelations was that NSA spied on the Brazilian oil company Petrobras - which is very hard to justify on national security grounds, and instead points to industrial espionage of the kind the NSA claims it doesn't engage in (as compared to China, etc.).

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-snowden-petr...

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should make a wiki for all of these leaks.

Erm, there is this: https://github.com/iamcryptoki/snowden-archive/

In case you didn't catch on, it's a joke about wikileaks.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #14
post #10

> the files are in the New York Times office What a sham. The NYT has openly said many times that it allows the US Government to determine what is "fit to print". How did it come to this? I strongly believe there was some level of collusion between Greenwald & the USG. How else did he get to have a successful media career in the West, while fellow publisher/journalist Assange rots in prison? https://www.nytimes.com/2…

Greenwald moved to Brazil, and his partner was subjected to extraordinary detention while travelling. Greenwald was just smarter than Assange at avoiding traps.

I'm not saying Greenwald was an agent of the USG or always planning to collude, but I think he saw the opportunity and took it, especially after his partner was detained and he saw how serious it was.

Re: Why only 1% of the Snowden Archive will ever be published

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post #6

> Why was only 1% of the documents published, in the end? “The documents are not like the WikiLeaks ones from the US state department, which were written by diplomats and, for the most part, easily understandable,” said Ewen MacAskill. “The Snowden files are largely technical, with lots of codewords and jargon that is hard to decipher. There are pages and pages of that which the public would not be interested in. The…

Yes, wouldn't the document still be used against him even if he just leaked to journalists.

Exactly, the reasons given are simply not logical.
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