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Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future
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Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future
#12there is a recent 5-part documentary about berlin, its unique history since the fall of the wall, especially the nightlife, culture, investments and projects, housing etc
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#13The ones that arbitrarily didn't let people get in when they were in their peak? Fuck them!
Re: Berlin's famed nightclubs, losing customers, face an uncertain future
#14I used to live part time in Berlin during the recent heyday of these clubs. The city was a bit more anarchic and chaotic. There was a lot of underground things happening.
I was there recently and the city felt much more subdued. Things got cleaned up. Lots of new housing. A bit more gentrified and quiet.
I’m guessing the crowds aged out.
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It's never over as long as there is a industrial ruin, a speaker and a glowstick. The rest is just the clubs that ate the raves. Nothing of value was lost.
It'll never be over--it's just Berlin will no longer be the capital of it. Actually would not be terribly surprised if the party moves to San Francisco next.
San Francisco is the least party city imaginable. There is probably a better dance scene in Moscow, Idaho then there is in SF.
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#16The ones that arbitrarily didn't let people get in when they were in their peak? Fuck them!
In the article even when they are struggling they still don’t let people in. Not sure what they want exactly.
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It's never over as long as there is a industrial ruin, a speaker and a glowstick. The rest is just the clubs that ate the raves. Nothing of value was lost.
It'll never be over--it's just Berlin will no longer be the capital of it. Actually would not be terribly surprised if the party moves to San Francisco next.
It goes were cheap space exists. So SF not, rust belt yes, eastern Europe yes..the gentrified poker chip stack cities of the investors can not host vibrant nightlife..
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#18What I love about the tiktok generation is seeing them in small groups with a sizable Bluetooth boombox having fun in parks and outdoor places. No need for entrance fees and gatekeeping, they can listen to any DJ from the world live or recorded. I think clubs are overrated, small gatherings and ad hoc parties are way more interesting.
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#19The ones that arbitrarily didn't let people get in when they were in their peak? Fuck them!
Exactly, when I was a student I used to go on the clubbing weekend trips the article describes and which are in decline.
> Even Berghain, typically an anomaly because it draws crowds from around the world, has raised its cover charge to deal with rising costs. He thinks fewer Europeans are making quick clubbing trips to the city due to the financial hit of the pandemic.
As a student, I had time and patience to look for another club for being denied entrance because I wasn't wearing leather BDSM harnesses after waiting in line for 2 hours. Now not so much.
This is good news though, now that the economic pressure is on, maybe it's a good time for non-fashionistas to go raving in Berlin again, though I doubt the euro is stronger than scene snobism.
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#20You also have tik tok ravers. A generation which built their own culture in isolation in the pandemic now flooding the dance floors not knowing anything about techno culture. For me it's a big part of not wanting to go anywhere anymore. Before, your outfit didn't matter, phones, photos and videos were discouraged. Nowadays these kids dress to impress and point there phones everywhere. They consume the techno culture…
Phones and photography are banned in many Berlin clubs - they either lock your phone away at the entrance or put a sticker on the camera. That's why you barely see any footage from inside Berghain anywhere...
I think most people who go there would consider that a feature, not a bug.