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U.S. Consumers Spent More on Food in 2022 Than Ever Before (Inflation Adjusted)

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Everyone knows they are spending way more on food. The CPI inflation numbers feel like a lie.

Which numbers feel like a lie? You can drill down into the BLS CPI data and see prices for specific items like ground beef. Are they wrong?

Food is just one component of the CPI so it's possible for food prices to increase a lot even while overall inflation remains low.

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Everyone knows they are spending way more on food. The CPI inflation numbers feel like a lie.

But that's not what's happening in this article. The Food Away From Home share has hit an all-time high, and FAFH costs more (because it contains more internalized labor than groceries). Americans eat out a lot because they are unbelievably rich.

Yes Americans are rich and are also very busy. Life seems to push so fast that I know a lot of people buy food away from home due to a sense that they don’t have time to cook. There must be rich individuals in other cultures who still eat at home because they have more freedom to take the time to do so. Americans on a global scale are rich but I expect that living expenses are so high too that many people who often eat out are still struggling to get by.

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Monopolization in the food industry (at just about every level) has set the stage for unchecked corporate profiteering. The real shortages during the pandemic created a pretext for ongoing gouging. Federal authorities used to intervene with various forms of price controls and limits on this kind of stuff, but now they simply wash their hands of the whole thing. This is of course all in the context of the US engaging in massive agricultural subsidies, the bulk of which go to said monopolies.

Re: U.S. Consumers Spent More on Food in 2022 Than Ever Before (Inflation Adjusted)

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I think this has a lot to do with the under counting of inflation. If you go back to 80s methodology inflation has been much larger that what they've let on.

Yup. I think there's also an ongoing century long shift in "modern" culture that makes classical economics food "baskets" unrepresentative. Excepting wellness geeks, nobody who participates in "modern" culture lives on classical staples of grains, produce, dairy, and affordable cuts of meat.

As a hardline economist in academia, you can say that those are what matter to poverty or starvation because people will eventually become desperate enough to reject their lived culture and return to an alien world of basic foods, but policy makers need to be realistic and acknowledge that most people have no idea how to eat without branded processed foods, fast food convenience, etc. The cultural traditions that made simple foods practical have been lost from many families and those never-learned recipes and habits don't just restore themselves to people overnight when times get tough.

That inconvenient reality of what people actually eat needs to get folded into these economic models for them to actually report on what they intend to. Otherwise, the measures just speaking to a lost time and the smattering of rustic immigrants who still know how to live satisfyingly on traditional staples.

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Shhh, don't look at that. Just focus on "U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter, better than expected (cnbc.com)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38025177 and celebrate. Sure, 90% of Americans under 50 will never be able to buy a house. They are one injury away from bankruptcy. But the GDP!

Aren't age-adjusted homeownership rates roughly the same for millennials as it was for baby boomers?

I won't argue that it's harder and more expensive, it sure is, but millennials seem to prioritize it enough to do whatever it takes to own a home, so home prices keep going up.

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I think this has a lot to do with the under counting of inflation. If you go back to 80s methodology inflation has been much larger that what they've let on.

They should use the dollar menu at mc donalds to track food price inflation.

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post #3

Everyone knows they are spending way more on food. The CPI inflation numbers feel like a lie.

But that's not what's happening in this article. The Food Away From Home share has hit an all-time high, and FAFH costs more (because it contains more internalized labor than groceries). Americans eat out a lot because they are unbelievably rich.

I rarely eat out these days, even lunch. It's just too much money now and not worth the convenience. I pack a lunch to take to work now and prepare breakfast and dinner at home. I might eat out two or three times a month.

Re: U.S. Consumers Spent More on Food in 2022 Than Ever Before (Inflation Adjusted)

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I think this has a lot to do with the under counting of inflation. If you go back to 80s methodology inflation has been much larger that what they've let on.

I am not familiar with the methodology of reporting inflation used in the 80s - did they take a wider basket of goods, or were there other consumer purchases in question that would affect the reporting number? If we were to use the 80s methodology - what would inflation numbers look like?

Shadow Stats has a chart showing the differences between both 80s and 90s methodologies and current: https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
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