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Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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Re: Lemming Suicide Myth: Disney Film Faked Bogus Behavior

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Post by kranke155 »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #4
blcknight wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean in an interview they’re claiming it’s real https://www.fastcompany.com/3068093/heres-the-story-behind-t... It looks very convincing to me if it is a fake.

It's not fake as in CG or puppet snakes or a set or they dropped a bucket of snakes on an unsuspecting lizard, but video from different times spliced together to present a narrative that isn't what happened. Fake temporally at least. The producer has acknowledged this: "Unfortunately lizards, snakes and iguanas aren’t good at 'takes'." She continued: "For continuity, it was better to crop the scenes together based of…

Sergei Eisenstein’s montage theory should be basic teaching at school.

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Post by DizzyDoo »

eddyfromtheblok wrote: post #7

congratulations to whomever amongst you who capitalized on this and initially created the Lemmings game for the Amiga

I mean, it was Russell Kay[0], David Jones[1] and Mike Dailly[2], though I don't know if they're here.

Personally I enjoyed the Lemmings Revolution game in the series, and that was much later than the Amiga version.

[0] - https://www.mobygames.com/person/685/russell-kay/

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jones_(video_game_develo...

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Dailly_(game_designer)

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Post by JKCalhoun »

Saw this oddity on a wild film-loop projector when I was in Junior high school. If anyone remember's these (I remember them from the 1970's) they were the film equivalent of the 8-track tapeL: an endless loop of 8mm film (probably only 50 feet or so of film) in an odd chunky cartridge that you slammed into a small projector.

I guess they were the analog version of TikTok.

(Edit: appears they were called "Magi-Cartridge": https://youtu.be/tEshEHC78no?si=SaJk9aLkNUJpm-XK)

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Post by Jeff_Brown »

pricci wrote: post #13

> The lemmings supposedly committing mass suicide by leaping into the ocean were actually thrown off a cliff by the Disney filmmakers. I guess the 50s where different times

In westerns they would tie cables to horses' legs at the right length so that they would fall in the right place as if they had been shot.

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Post by mc32 »

mcpackieh wrote: post #2

It remains common practice for nature "documentaries" to create fake narratives in editing. Pay attention to cuts, camera angles and changes in background scenery and you'll notice quite a lot of it. If they're showing two animals in some sort of confrontation but only ever show one of the animals at a time, you can be sure it's fake. If they're showing something that has several camera angles it's probably fake, par…

I hold out hope that Marty Stouffer’s Wild America didn’t make liberal use of those shenanigans in his original series.

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Post by yieldcrv »

erickhill wrote: post #14

"Lemmings do not commit mass suicide. It's a myth, but it's remarkable how many people believe it." The sensational Amiga puzzle video game called "Lemmings" helped perpetuate the idea, too. :)

The phrase of calling uncritical thinkers “lemmings” also helps entrench the idea
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