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MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by weikju »

frankjr wrote: post #9
josephcsible wrote: post #7

Why did they go closed-source for the 64-bit version?

> Menuet64 is closed source because M32 was forked and new copyrights just slapped at the beginning of practically all 32bit source files (multitasking, drivers, GUI, networking..) without any permission. You can take a guess about the country in question. https://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=22194

> You can take a guess about the country in question.

For the curious, it appears to have been done by people in Russia (state-sponsored or not is unclear)

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by mike_hock »

frankjr wrote: post #9
josephcsible wrote: post #7

Why did they go closed-source for the 64-bit version?

> Menuet64 is closed source because M32 was forked and new copyrights just slapped at the beginning of practically all 32bit source files (multitasking, drivers, GUI, networking..) without any permission. You can take a guess about the country in question. https://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=22194

How does that make sense? That has always been and will always be possible with any open source project. Should every other project go closed source too just because Russia can fork it and say "I made this"?

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #3

2009 might be earliest HN commentary, but MenuetOS dates back to at least 2005 according to the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20051215234548if_/http://www.co.... https://web.archive.org/web/20051030022655if_/http://www.men...

Earlier than that: I remember booting it on my Pentium 90 before 2003

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by seritools »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #3

2009 might be earliest HN commentary, but MenuetOS dates back to at least 2005 according to the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20051215234548if_/http://www.co.... https://web.archive.org/web/20051030022655if_/http://www.men...

Kinda weird to use IA for this instead of just looking it up on Wikipedia

    Initial release: May 16, 2000; 23 years ago (32-bit)

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by larvaetron »

seritools wrote: post #14
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #3

2009 might be earliest HN commentary, but MenuetOS dates back to at least 2005 according to the Internet Archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20051215234548if_/http://www.co.... https://web.archive.org/web/20051030022655if_/http://www.men...

Kinda weird to use IA for this instead of just looking it up on Wikipedia Initial release: May 16, 2000; 23 years ago (32-bit)

I don't see anything "kinda weird" about that.

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by msla »

mike_hock wrote: post #12
frankjr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Menuet64 is closed source because M32 was forked and new copyrights just slapped at the beginning of practically all 32bit source files (multitasking, drivers, GUI, networking..) without any permission. You can take a guess about the country in question. https://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=22194

How does that make sense? That has always been and will always be possible with any open source project. Should every other project go closed source too just because Russia can fork it and say "I made this"?

Yeah, that excuse makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by Dalewyn »

larvaetron wrote: post #16
seritools wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kinda weird to use IA for this instead of just looking it up on Wikipedia Initial release: May 16, 2000; 23 years ago (32-bit)

I don't see anything "kinda weird" about that.

It is weird to anyone who didn't grow up being told to not cite Wikipedia as a source of information in any authoritative capacity, being told to instead dig for and cite the original source instead which a tool like Internet Archive is useful for.

Culture shock stemming from a generation gap, I guess.

(Obviously this distinction is not important for most comments here on Hacker News which are just written in passing, but if this was an academical setting you would, presumably and hopefully, get laughed out of the room.)

Re: MenuetOS: An entire operating system in x86_64 assembly

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Post by chungy »

frankjr wrote: post #9
josephcsible wrote: post #7

Why did they go closed-source for the 64-bit version?

> Menuet64 is closed source because M32 was forked and new copyrights just slapped at the beginning of practically all 32bit source files (multitasking, drivers, GUI, networking..) without any permission. You can take a guess about the country in question. https://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=22194

That seems like an awfully petty reason. (and does the forum censor the word "Russia" or something?)
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