What is blocking import of EVs from China. I saw 3000-4000 RMB ~ $400 electric scooters in China that I would use in US instead of a car for local trips.
I suspect a combination of safety standards and an unwillingness for the Chinese companies to deal with the process of certifying or complying, a local hesitation given the well known problems with Chinese electric bike and scooter battery charging and fires, and current ongoing global political concerns that have the US and US companies reevaluating how strongly tied to China they want to be.
Ford hits the brakes on $12B in EV spending
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#13Can the price pressure reduce the amount of cars overall after IC cars are outlawed?
Probably not in a democracy. A huge number of people like owning cars. If there is price pressure from a law, there will be massive political pressure to change that law.
Most people don't like to own cars. Pay, insure, park, repair. It is just necessity to move from point A to point B.
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#14Can the price pressure reduce the amount of cars overall after IC cars are outlawed?
ICE cars won't be outlawed if there isn't an acceptable alternative. It would be political suicide.
Europe and California are already moving full steam ahead without a plan.
Anything for that sweet chinese money.
EVs benefit china. Period. Gavin Newsom met with Xi recently. Probably to collect his paycheck for enacting the law to phase out ICEs by 2030.
Why cant democrat supporters connect the dots.
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#15The headline basically says it all. My 15 year old car is starting to get some issues so I was browsing some EVs. They are literally twice as expensive as a comparable ICE car, even after tax incentives. With interest rates where they are, 22k vs 44k is a huge difference. They are just unaffordable for a lot of people. (Also, was looking for a sedan. They don’t seem to make a lot of EV sedans, and I find the hatchbac…
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This demonstrably false. This is a paranoid take that disregards the actual facts. The same was said of cars when horses were popular.
Economies of scale will make EVs cheaper. The more produced the cheaper they get.
The hidden costs of ICE vehicles means that they are only priced as low as they are because of significant discounting of their real effects on air quality, climate, and diminishing oil supply. If those were priced accurately, they would be significantly more expensive to operate.
No, rich people aren't trying to take your ICE cars, the rest of us are because they're destroying our only habitat. We want our children to grow up in a world where humans can thrive instead of hiding underground to keep cool from deadly heat and starving from the lack of stable food production.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably not in a democracy. A huge number of people like owning cars. If there is price pressure from a law, there will be massive political pressure to change that law.
Most people don't like to own cars. Pay, insure, park, repair. It is just necessity to move from point A to point B.
Sadly untrue in large parts of the US. Often it becomes an extension of ones identity. To not have one is a clear signal you're too poor or too 'city'. (Having the wrong one is similarly troublesome for ones social life.)
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#18The headline basically says it all. My 15 year old car is starting to get some issues so I was browsing some EVs. They are literally twice as expensive as a comparable ICE car, even after tax incentives. With interest rates where they are, 22k vs 44k is a huge difference. They are just unaffordable for a lot of people. (Also, was looking for a sedan. They don’t seem to make a lot of EV sedans, and I find the hatchbac…
15 years is too early to give up on a car unless it is corrosion. Learn how to fix your car yourself. Parts are inexpensive only labor is like $300-$500/real working hour.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people don't like to own cars. Pay, insure, park, repair. It is just necessity to move from point A to point B.
Sadly untrue in large parts of the US. Often it becomes an extension of ones identity. To not have one is a clear signal you're too poor or too 'city'. (Having the wrong one is similarly troublesome for ones social life.)
I am just a software developer and I don't know a single person who thinks car is a status symbol of any kind. Private jets and yachts are.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
ICE cars won't be outlawed if there isn't an acceptable alternative. It would be political suicide.
Europe and California are already moving full steam ahead without a plan. Anything for that sweet chinese money. EVs benefit china. Period. Gavin Newsom met with Xi recently. Probably to collect his paycheck for enacting the law to phase out ICEs by 2030. Why cant democrat supporters connect the dots.
> Why cant democrat supporters connect the dots.
Because there's no dots to connect.
Related: Dems probably know what a question mark is and where it should be used.