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I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by js4ever »

esafak wrote: post #5

Does anyone have recent experience with both? I'm in the market, for a startup, and I need to decide. My priorities are the data warehouse (BigQuery vs. Redshift) and ML (Vertex AI vs. SageMaker). This article is three years old. Vertex did not even exist then.

One of the 2 never deprecate anything and ensure your workload will run untouched for 10y or more. The other one will force you every 6 months to update sdk, api endpoints or even kill a service you need in weeks. I let you guess who's who

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by MisterPea »

esafak wrote: post #5

Does anyone have recent experience with both? I'm in the market, for a startup, and I need to decide. My priorities are the data warehouse (BigQuery vs. Redshift) and ML (Vertex AI vs. SageMaker). This article is three years old. Vertex did not even exist then.

I've worked in AWS before and also in a company that uses GCP.

Funnily enough, I would recommend AWS over GCP in every single category except for the two that you mentioned.

Although Snowflake is my choice for DW and it is cloud agnostic

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by skadamat »

My biggest challenge with GCP is that I'm still not convinced Google cares that much about this division.

They acquired Looker, fired the customer service staff, and then set it out to crumble. Looker used to be LOVED by its customers but now they were forced to make their semantic layer work with Tableau.

Also, I'm still not convinced Google cares about divisions that aren't linked to advertising. Google Search, Gmail (kinda), Maps, Android, and YouTube are their darlings.

Will GCP be around in 5 years? I honestly am not sure.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by s-xyz »

I share the same experience and opinion. I cannot imagine what a significant argument would be to use AWS instead of GCP that outweighs the benefits and the seemingly integrated services. GCP has so far covered 99% of my use cases, and I can testify that I have a lot of advanced cases linked to data management, information security, networking and more. I am open and do not judge AWS, and perhaps its also a matter of what you are used to. However my style and approach to problems is more in alignment with GCP. I am for example of the opinion that the cloud provider should take care of everything linked to infrastructure, maintenance and as well scaling. And all of that should be as simple as possible. There is no need to overcomplicate. In this way I can focus on what makes my product unique, rather than spending my time on over-engineering repetitive features with zero value added.

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Post by shell0x »

craigmcnamara wrote: post #6

I find the GCP documentation to be lacking compared to AWS. Specifically while using GCP with Terraform I hit more frustrating nonsense error messages with little to no google hits or undocumented behavior around IAM config compared to my experience doing similar things on AWS.

100%. My experience has been the same. The docs have their shortcomings and I ended up reading through so many Github issues and random blog posts trying to resolve the issues.

From a documentation perspective, AWS is still the best.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by esafak »

notfried wrote: post #7

I don't buy the article's argument around the "Fear that GCP may be abandoned by Google". Yes, it is highly unlikely that Google will wake-up one day and announce a deprecation day for GCP, like they did with dozens of other products. What is not unlikely though is that they under-invest in it compared to AWS, and being a 2nd or 3rd player, they would fall behind in products and/or reliability, unable to compete on p…

Not going to happen; they kill consumer- not enterprise products. I searched https://killedbygoogle.com/ for "Google Cloud" and the only dead enterprise products that stood out were Google Cloud Messaging and Google Cloud Prediction API. But they replaced those with Firebase Cloud Messaging and the AI Platform Prediction API.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by opjjf »

esafak wrote: post #5

Does anyone have recent experience with both? I'm in the market, for a startup, and I need to decide. My priorities are the data warehouse (BigQuery vs. Redshift) and ML (Vertex AI vs. SageMaker). This article is three years old. Vertex did not even exist then.

Don't know enough about Vertex AI, SageMaker is great though. But on BigQuery v Redshift: Having used both over many years, BigQuery is the clear winner. It's a much better, much more modern product.

BigQuery is also a central part of GCP, with almost all services having integrations to it (PubSub, CloudSQL, Bigtable, etc). It also seems to get a lot of resources and is continuously improved. That is not the case for Redshift, which is not as important to AWS.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by HideousKojima »

s-xyz wrote: post #14

I share the same experience and opinion. I cannot imagine what a significant argument would be to use AWS instead of GCP that outweighs the benefits and the seemingly integrated services. GCP has so far covered 99% of my use cases, and I can testify that I have a lot of advanced cases linked to data management, information security, networking and more. I am open and do not judge AWS, and perhaps its also a matter of…

> cannot imagine what a significant argument would be to use AWS instead of GCP that outweighs the benefits and the seemingly integrated services.

Confidence that it will continue to exist in the next 3-10 years?

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Post by christkv »

skadamat wrote: post #13

My biggest challenge with GCP is that I'm still not convinced Google cares that much about this division. They acquired Looker, fired the customer service staff, and then set it out to crumble. Looker used to be LOVED by its customers but now they were forced to make their semantic layer work with Tableau. Also, I'm still not convinced Google cares about divisions that aren't linked to advertising. Google Search, Gma…

Considering their earnings today being down in cloud I think I would rightfully worry about their long term commitment.

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esafak wrote: post #5

Does anyone have recent experience with both? I'm in the market, for a startup, and I need to decide. My priorities are the data warehouse (BigQuery vs. Redshift) and ML (Vertex AI vs. SageMaker). This article is three years old. Vertex did not even exist then.

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