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UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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it is critical for national security and public order to monitor the activity of subversive elements. These 'teaching assistants' may well be spies for foreign governments or unwitting pawns manipulated by those governments. As a democracy, UK government represents the will of the people. The government and the people are one

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Remember this is “keeping files on posts that criticise education policies” — tracking political dissenters who don’t like the government’s policies but have done nothing wrong or illegal. While we’re off focusing on encryption debates and the online safety bill, the UK government isn’t waiting around. Just what is “accredited technology”? As defined in that bill, and how much does encryption play a role when monitor…

Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Remember this is “keeping files on posts that criticise education policies” — tracking political dissenters who don’t like the government’s policies but have done nothing wrong or illegal. While we’re off focusing on encryption debates and the online safety bill, the UK government isn’t waiting around. Just what is “accredited technology”? As defined in that bill, and how much does encryption play a role when monitor…

Meanwhile, when groups of activists surveil dissenters/wrongthinkers on social media, actively make lists of them and try to get them fired or worse for their speech/thoughts, many still defend that as 'perfectly reasonable consequences of unacceptable speech'

I think regardless of what you think of policing speech generally it just is clearly worse when the entity controlling the police does it

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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it is critical for national security and public order to monitor the activity of subversive elements. These 'teaching assistants' may well be spies for foreign governments or unwitting pawns manipulated by those governments. As a democracy, UK government represents the will of the people. The government and the people are one

> State is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly it lies; and this lie slips from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to read the article before you comment. They include the source material: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/21/uk-governme... What evidence are you using to tar and feather the guardian with your false conspiracy theories?

Ignoring using the Guardian as a source for now..... If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?

You must be rather dense. Flatly disregard a provided source that counters your claim of "conspiracy theories" and then compare something like this to employers responding to employee criticisms. The two things are categorically different. The state spying on and punishing private citizens (even if they're government employees) for their criticisms of its policies is far ahead in danger from corporate employee monitoring bullshit.

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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It's certainly chilling to have confirmed what I've long suspected is being done.

If OpenAI are scraping public tweets for their LLM then it's hard for me to believe this government isn't also scraping for their own power and control.

Perhaps unsurprisingly this seems to be about as high quality as the track & trace system that looted £37 billion from the tax payer [0].

It makes one think about the importance of anonymous donations to NGOs who are trying to hold the government accountable for fear of future targeted surveillance for valuing "freedom".

[0] https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accoun...

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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it is critical for national security and public order to monitor the activity of subversive elements. These 'teaching assistants' may well be spies for foreign governments or unwitting pawns manipulated by those governments. As a democracy, UK government represents the will of the people. The government and the people are one

I for one think this does not go far enough. Teachers have access to children, and so we should monitor children as well.

Whike they may not tweet, we should involve investigators to catalog what words and babyspeech the children say, their tastes in toys, how they arrange their blocks and perhaps even their food preferences.

While tracking the food preferences of every toddler across the UK may be involved, we must remember this is for the safety of those children and the country as a whole and there can be no greater use of government employees time.

Re: UK government surveilling social media of teaching assistants

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to read the article before you comment. They include the source material: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/21/uk-governme... What evidence are you using to tar and feather the guardian with your false conspiracy theories?

Ignoring using the Guardian as a source for now..... If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?

> If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?

We do not expect our employers to start files on us.

We do not expect them to do it when they are desperately short of cash and morale is low

We expect them to acknowledge there are problems (there are) and show some humility

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