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Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by sph »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #7
sph wrote: post #6

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I don't think they have VC money. I think the people building it just know what they're doing. Do you see anything that indicates this is a VC-funded project? It looks to me like they're only getting a little bit of money from Github Sponsors ( https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs ).

That's a lot of time and effort, for people earning next to nothing, for an open-source library. I'm not saying it's bad they have a beautiful website to rival any small SaaS, but how is even possible they have the time and energy to spend on that, rather than on the code itself? What would Linux or GNOME or leftpad look like with a proportional amount of marketing effort?

Last time I checked, testing libraries did not have custom iconset and a testimonial section to rival the Stripe homepage.

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by michaelmior »

revskill wrote: post #8

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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Not all open source projects are trying to turn users into products. A lot of open source projects derive value from getting external contributions that they wouldn't otherwise if something was kept closed source and in-house. Paying for software isn't always necessary.

That said, the project also has several sponsors: https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by dcre »

sph wrote: post #6

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Sure, it's a lot of fanfare, but at my job we've found working with MSW + OpenAPI to be near miraculous. I work on a web frontend and do most of my development against a mock API powered by MSW. This live preview runs against the mock API running fully in-browser.

https://oxide-console-preview.vercel.app

More details:

https://github.com/oxidecomputer/oxide.ts

https://github.com/oxidecomputer/console

https://oxide.computer/podcasts/oxide-and-friends/1426644

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by revskill »

michaelmior wrote: post #12
revskill wrote: post #8

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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Not all open source projects are trying to turn users into products. A lot of open source projects derive value from getting external contributions that they wouldn't otherwise if something was kept closed source and in-house. Paying for software isn't always necessary. That said, the project also has several sponsors: https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs

It's always like that.

I can't find any exception, sorry.

It's natural right ? You can't just have your cake and eat it, too.

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

#15

Post by CPLNTN »

sph wrote: post #11
teaearlgraycold wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they have VC money. I think the people building it just know what they're doing. Do you see anything that indicates this is a VC-funded project? It looks to me like they're only getting a little bit of money from Github Sponsors ( https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs ).

That's a lot of time and effort, for people earning next to nothing, for an open-source library. I'm not saying it's bad they have a beautiful website to rival any small SaaS, but how is even possible they have the time and energy to spend on that, rather than on the code itself? What would Linux or GNOME or leftpad look like with a proportional amount of marketing effort? Last time I checked, testing libraries did n…

I don’t understand, your complaint is that the project is too well done?

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

sph wrote: post #11
teaearlgraycold wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they have VC money. I think the people building it just know what they're doing. Do you see anything that indicates this is a VC-funded project? It looks to me like they're only getting a little bit of money from Github Sponsors ( https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs ).

That's a lot of time and effort, for people earning next to nothing, for an open-source library. I'm not saying it's bad they have a beautiful website to rival any small SaaS, but how is even possible they have the time and energy to spend on that, rather than on the code itself? What would Linux or GNOME or leftpad look like with a proportional amount of marketing effort? Last time I checked, testing libraries did n…

A few things:

1. It's actually pretty easy to get a pretty site these days. The SaaS layout is so standardized you can just buy a template to get your React site up and running and looking professional for a couple hundred dollars and a few hours of work. The site overall definitely took more time than that.

2. This is a library for front-end developers. It's made by front-end developers who probably have some design skills of their own. That makes it easier for them than Linux's kernel hacker team to set up a nice website.

3. Is this just a matter of insecurity on your part? I'm sure you have plenty of dev skills but maybe they don't extend to UI and you don't like that this team can throw together a beautiful site for something that's merely a side-project?

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by Uehreka »

revskill wrote: post #14
michaelmior wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Not all open source projects are trying to turn users into products. A lot of open source projects derive value from getting external contributions that they wouldn't otherwise if something was kept closed source and in-house. Paying for software isn't always necessary. That said, the project also has several sponsors: https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs

It's always like that. I can't find any exception, sorry. It's natural right ? You can't just have your cake and eat it, too.

So when I use, say, ffmpeg: In what sense am I their product?

They don’t collect telemetry, they don’t serve me ads, the output can be used with any other tool so there’s no lock in, there’s no FFmpeg Pro (TM) with features withheld from the base version.

This seems a little silly I know, but GP was talking about open source projects and you literally said “I can’t find any exception”.

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

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Post by morbicer »

revskill wrote: post #14
michaelmior wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Not all open source projects are trying to turn users into products. A lot of open source projects derive value from getting external contributions that they wouldn't otherwise if something was kept closed source and in-house. Paying for software isn't always necessary. That said, the project also has several sponsors: https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs

It's always like that. I can't find any exception, sorry. It's natural right ? You can't just have your cake and eat it, too.

Enlighten us how exactly are we products of Linux, Python, PostgreSQL and myriad of other open source which I am pretty sure you are using as well.

Re: MSW 2.0 – Mock Service Worker

#20

Post by skrebbel »

revskill wrote: post #14
michaelmior wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Not all open source projects are trying to turn users into products. A lot of open source projects derive value from getting external contributions that they wouldn't otherwise if something was kept closed source and in-house. Paying for software isn't always necessary. That said, the project also has several sponsors: https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs

It's always like that. I can't find any exception, sorry. It's natural right ? You can't just have your cake and eat it, too.

If you can’t find any exception then you’ve missed like 80% of the FOSS ecosystem. Incl every BSD, most linuxes, most python libs and so on and so forth.
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