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Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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Maybe Korea also had blue traffic lights in the past. But they still call green traffic lights 'blue' even though all of them use a green coloured light.

I think the use of blue to mean both blue and green has also been present in Korea for a long time.

I wonder where it came from? In my limited experience if Korea and Japan share something culturally it often has its common derivation in Chineese tradition.

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traffic lights are still fine for colour-blind people aren't they? The order of the lights doesn't change.

Night time?

Also lights with more than three bulbs, some indicating left or right turns, of which will take on two or more colours themselves. Some lights have a bulb above red for cyclists and transit. Some lights called beacons are a single bulb that take on several colours.

https://www.ontario.ca/document/official-mto-drivers-handboo...

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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Color blindness compatible design is, IMO, a very neglected part of the equality debate, in many other fields. This disability has a very skewed gender ratio due to how it works genetically.

Traffic lights are still fine for colour-blind people aren't they? The order of the lights doesn't change.

Funny thing, I'm NOT colorblind and apparently I only rely on the color. I've been driving for over 10 years now, mostly in the capital that has traffic lights everywhere, and sitting at my desk now not looking at a traffic light, I wouldn't want to bet money on the order.

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traffic lights are still fine for colour-blind people aren't they? The order of the lights doesn't change.

Yes. They can still drive fine, but don't get the benefits of color coding, like being able to infer whether red or green is lit from the light reflected off of other objects. That becomes somewhat important in low visibility situations where the position is hard to determine.

It seems the harder difficulty is red and yellow, see the comments in this article, but led lights have improved the situation for some:

https://www.color-blindness.com/2007/02/06/colorblind-at-the...

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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Color blindness compatible design is, IMO, a very neglected part of the equality debate, in many other fields. This disability has a very skewed gender ratio due to how it works genetically.

Traffic lights are still fine for colour-blind people aren't they? The order of the lights doesn't change.

It depends on their kind of colorblindness.

I see green lights as white, which is fine most of the time because of the order.

The exception is when there's a lot of glare from the sun setting behind me, and I sometimes can't tell if it's green, or just the sun reflecting at the right angle. It also washes out the red and yellow, making it harder to see if they're lit.

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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The Reader's Digest article is just a mediocre summary of the Atlas Obscura one it links to: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/japan-green-traffic-li... Although the latter does contain a complete misrepresentation of what "grue" means. The explanation is still unsatisfying. Japan had green lights, referred to in law by a word which means blue but has traditionally encompassed green as well. Pedants pointed out t…

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Huh, AO reads fine in w3m. Like many apparent JS-only websites (e.g. Medium), they seem to serve JS-free content if you pass a user agent that doesn't suggest JS-compatibility.

https://www.marginalia.nu/junk/w3m-ao.png

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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I used to wonder, as a kid, why most traffic lights in my region of Germany were red, orange-yellow and obviously turquoise. I remember drawing traffic lights (I loved drawing road layouts when I was young) without any use for the green pen. Nowadays, they all seem to be very much green, at least the new LED ones.

Re: Why Japan has blue traffic lights instead of green

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TL;DR: The traditional Japanese language did not have separate words for green and blue; instead, it used a single term "青" (ao) to cover both colours. Over time, the language evolved, but the initial categorisation of green as a type of blue stuck around in certain contexts, like traffic signals. This linguistic trait led to the designation of traffic signals that are green in colour as "青信号" (ao shingou), which literally translates to "blue signal."
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