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FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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Did any of the bad effects of not having net neutrality actually occur when it was gone?

Did ISPs throttle competition?

I haven’t seen any reports of this happening. I haven’t seen any studies showing this happening systematically.

I’m woefully uninformed, so I really would like to hear more about this. What has been happening these past few years?

Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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> Title II regulation isn't just about net neutrality, Rosenworcel said, arguing that the reclassification will give the FCC more authority to protect national security on broadband networks. "When we stripped state-affiliated companies from China of their authority to operate in the United States, that action did not extend to broadband services, thanks to the retreat from Title II. This is a national security looph…

>this smells like the beginning of the Great American Firewall.

That implies routing control. I would expect the NTIA (Dept of Commerce) to be tasked with that, closely advised by CISA.

The FCC's purview is more tied to licensing and regulation.

Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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Did any of the bad effects of not having net neutrality actually occur when it was gone? Did ISPs throttle competition? I haven’t seen any reports of this happening. I haven’t seen any studies showing this happening systematically. I’m woefully uninformed, so I really would like to hear more about this. What has been happening these past few years?

Did you upgrade your cell phone plan so you could have 1080p video on YouTube?

That's an example of non-neutral net

Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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> Title II regulation isn't just about net neutrality, Rosenworcel said, arguing that the reclassification will give the FCC more authority to protect national security on broadband networks. "When we stripped state-affiliated companies from China of their authority to operate in the United States, that action did not extend to broadband services, thanks to the retreat from Title II. This is a national security looph…

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Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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post #13

Did any of the bad effects of not having net neutrality actually occur when it was gone? Did ISPs throttle competition? I haven’t seen any reports of this happening. I haven’t seen any studies showing this happening systematically. I’m woefully uninformed, so I really would like to hear more about this. What has been happening these past few years?

Did you upgrade your cell phone plan so you could have 1080p video on YouTube? That's an example of non-neutral net

No, I did not. My cell data plan has never preferred one bit over the other.

Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you upgrade your cell phone plan so you could have 1080p video on YouTube? That's an example of non-neutral net

No, I did not. My cell data plan has never preferred one bit over the other.

Lucky you, you must not be on Verizon, AT&T or TMobile

Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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Did any of the bad effects of not having net neutrality actually occur when it was gone? Did ISPs throttle competition? I haven’t seen any reports of this happening. I haven’t seen any studies showing this happening systematically. I’m woefully uninformed, so I really would like to hear more about this. What has been happening these past few years?

There have been many reports of ISPs overwriting ads and adding content to non-https content. Also bundled content on mobile providers not counting against caps, etc.

Many also lie on speedtests, though I don't know if that counts.

Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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post #8

> Title II regulation isn't just about net neutrality, Rosenworcel said, arguing that the reclassification will give the FCC more authority to protect national security on broadband networks. "When we stripped state-affiliated companies from China of their authority to operate in the United States, that action did not extend to broadband services, thanks to the retreat from Title II. This is a national security looph…

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Re: FCC moves ahead with Title II net neutrality rules in 3-2 party-line vote

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Did any of the bad effects of not having net neutrality actually occur when it was gone? Did ISPs throttle competition? I haven’t seen any reports of this happening. I haven’t seen any studies showing this happening systematically. I’m woefully uninformed, so I really would like to hear more about this. What has been happening these past few years?

No. It was a nothingburger.
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