Anyone willing to speculate if there is any legal recourse?
Probably complain to the NLRB I assume.
Bandcamp's Entire Union Bargaining Team Was Laid Off
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#12Ofc Epic had to ruin everything
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#13Unions have existed by various names for all of time but I have a hard time sympathizing except in the case of blue collar/low income workers.
Any group of workers can be exploited by their employers. The gaming industry has shown time and time again it is a prime example of this.
How do you define exploitation?
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#14It's illegal.See "Discriminating against employees because of their union activities or sympathies" [1] Enforcement is weak, but it's illegal. [1] https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/di...
If I understand the statement below right, 27 of the union members received offers
> “Of those laid off, 40 were in the union bargaining unit out of a total 67 members. None of the eight (8) democratically elected bargaining team members received a job offer.”
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#15That seems like a hack
The hack is knowing that this will lead many other Bandcamp staff who want a union to look for new jobs. Bandcamp bust their union and do a cheap layoff at the same time.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any group of workers can be exploited by their employers. The gaming industry has shown time and time again it is a prime example of this.
How do you define exploitation?
Unless you have shares - you are exploited for your surplus value.
This is true for any and all wage based labour.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any group of workers can be exploited by their employers. The gaming industry has shown time and time again it is a prime example of this.
How do you define exploitation?
Being sold a job working for a specific salary at 40 hours a week, and then being told to work 80+ hours a week without overtime in order to keep your job, and having all trace of your work removed from the credits if you leave. That's how the games industry works.
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#18Seems more like the layoffs were about laying off the union members. Some CEOs perceive unions as cancer that has to be stopped from metastasis. In countries with stronger union protection laws this move would have been illegal
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#19Ofc Epic had to ruin everything
Epic sold it to Songtradr.
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#20It's illegal.See "Discriminating against employees because of their union activities or sympathies" [1] Enforcement is weak, but it's illegal. [1] https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/di...
If I understand the statement below right, 27 of the union members received offers > “Of those laid off, 40 were in the union bargaining unit out of a total 67 members. None of the eight (8) democratically elected bargaining team members received a job offer.”
Seeing the headline, and remembering that 50% of employees were laid off, my first thought was: "what're the odds?"
I assume I'd have to use NCR or something to calculate that. I know the upper (rarest) bound is 1/2^40, but it's likely much more likely, and not random.