Doesn’t Bayer’s Ag division have a data science org out of St. Louis
Is that a question?
What SWE job hunting is like right now
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#12Have you looked for any remote opportunities?
in the same boat
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#13This isn't unique to your role.
John Deere is the same here. They directly posted 2 IT Admin jobs. I applied and was denied. Now I get spammed with phone calls, emails, and texts many times a week from recruiters who insist I'm ideal for the position but never get beyond the recruiter. It's been months at this point.
US Army, via one of their contractors, is the same. Open rolls didn't fill. Now the contractor seems to have these rolls perpetually open and staffing agencies hiring constantly resulting in...nothing.
Truly bizarre and frustrating.
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#14>not interested in the tools of the trade etc
You’re looking at this wrong. Enterprise tools of the trade are not the same as start up tools of the trade.
You’re not going to get in to an enterprise order management codebase and be pitching nodejs and huge lift and shifts. It just won’t happen.
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#15Just FYI one data point, I live in Austin, Texas, I'm a contract python programmer, and the details are different but I am in the same boat right now. I'm taking the opportunity to learn new stuff at home, and if finances get tight I'll take a non-SWE position and wait it out until the software job market comes back, but right now it's definitely not just you and not just St. Louis.
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#16As a hiring manager for a relatively small company, a major problem is misaligned salary expectations.
Real world example: I recently interviewed an engineer hit by layoffs at Shopify/UPS. The candidate had 4 years of total work experience, and was making $175k in the role that she was let go from, and they won’t accept anything less when looking for a new role. With 4 years of total experience in the workforce.
I would have loved to hire them at $120-140k, but for $175k I can easily find people with 5x more years of experience.
It’s a tough pill to swallow but it is possible to get offers, but they might not be at the salary levels from 2-3 years ago.
Edit: Above anecdote is for 100% remote in US. Full stack node/react/mongo.
Edit 2: Another anecdote to share. The recruiter our company works with (who sources all our candidates) used to only work on a 25% commission of first year salary. About a year ago we were able to negotiate that down to 20%. And a couple months ago we negotiated it down to $90/hr with 0% commission (which comes to roughly 10% or less of first year salary on average). The market for engaging recruiters is a good proxy for the overall supply/demand of the job market.
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#17What's your ideal tech stack or position you're looking for?
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#18The last time I switched jobs was in October of 2020, so I haven’t experienced this personally, but I have a lot of friends in the same boat.
Lots of said friends were affected by layoffs at various tech companies over the last couple years, but I also have some junior dev friends that are finding it basically impossible to even get callbacks. Everyone seems to only want senior devs at the moment.
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#19I've lived there and tried to find work when I was at a Junior level and had no luck. That was during Covid. I had more luck just networking a lot and trying to make connections with people who work remotely.
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#20St. Louis is a wasteland if you’re looking for more modern software jobs. And the employers haven’t learned their lesson. You can though, by looking for remote work.