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The MP3mobile (1998)

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Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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Circa 2001 or so, I got a portable CD player for Christmas that could also play MP3s, which was just about the coolest thing ever at the time. Now instead of the normal 12-13 songs a CD could hold when converted to WAV, I could hold 100-200 songs in mp3 form on a 700mb CD burned as a data disc rather than an audio disc. This was then supplemented in the car with a cassette tape adapter that included an audio jack. [0…

My first car was too new to have a tape player, but too old to have aux/usb/bluetooth input. I had to resort plugging in my creative nomad mp3 player to an FM radio transmitter plugged into my cigarette lighter port. :)

Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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Love and remember this project -- as someone who has also been jamming customized PC computers into cars since the mid 90's, I really believe that there is still a lot of unrecognized potential in having the ability to carry your own personal data and applications with you. I used to have the top viewed install on the MP3Car forums back in the early 2000's when that site was kind of the central hub for these projects. Unfortunately at some point those archives went offline and and an overwhelming amount of information on hundreds of these projects were lost.

At that time you have to realize that some cars were shipping with tape decks and others were shipping with big screen nav systems that sucked. The objective was to replace that junk with a touchscreen PC, make it look like it was built that way, make it integrate with the car as much as possible, then make it do everything you could ever want to do in a car. My install had: automatic backup camera, in-dash dvd, timeshift recording for am/fm, xm satellite, and uhf/vhf tv, gps navigation, 4.1 audio, music/movie playback from hdd or usb, wifi hotspot, cell modem, integration with the car's accessory bus (steering wheel buttons/react to events), basically the works. I even eventually got my system fully working with LinuxBios (Via EPIA-M) which was fun, but not something I ever want to have to repeat.

I did eventually come to learn that trying to build and maintain a full telematics suite for a userbase of one was a foolish endeavor. Today I have a small Raspberry Pi running 24/7 as a headless NAS in my car though if I had the time I would probably like to upgrade it to a small proxmox hyperconverged cluster instead. My car goes mostly everywhere I go, and when it doesn't, I can fall back to VPN. If this sounds interesting to anyone else, I'd highly recommend giving it a try, though it's a lot easier to deal with the constant power requirement in an EV.

Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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post #11

Circa 2001 or so, I got a portable CD player for Christmas that could also play MP3s, which was just about the coolest thing ever at the time. Now instead of the normal 12-13 songs a CD could hold when converted to WAV, I could hold 100-200 songs in mp3 form on a 700mb CD burned as a data disc rather than an audio disc. This was then supplemented in the car with a cassette tape adapter that included an audio jack. [0…

My first car was too new to have a tape player, but too old to have aux/usb/bluetooth input. I had to resort plugging in my creative nomad mp3 player to an FM radio transmitter plugged into my cigarette lighter port. :)

I remember the Nokia N900 being able to broadcast FM to achieve the same!

Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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The UI for these things isn't good to use while driving. Music players with big storage have pretty poor ways to find what you're looking for even with a decent sized screen + keyboard (like youtube music on your phone or an ipod touch), let alone just a few buttons (like I had on my MP3 CD player or what this seems to have). Even if you have a passenger running the device, you fall victim to them not knowing your mu…

> not very practical compared to alternatives

Compared to alternatives today but in 1998 there wasn't much experience in this space. So it was very much worth experimenting at the time.

Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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This was a nostalgia bomb for me, particularly because I did a project like this in my first car around the same time. In retrospect, it's a miracle my car never exploded, with questionable wiring running from my console to the trunk, and a power inverter / extension cord combo that was also fairly dubious. But the idea of having all my music was too much to pass up for a nascent driver and techie. My setup was a min…

I had an aux input on the back of my car stereo wired to a Toshiba laptop shoved into the glovebox of my Chevy Lumina. The laptop ran WinAmp with all my bootleg mp3s. There was no power connection, and laptop batteries were terrible back then, so yeah, I could listen to music for about 20 minutes. Oh, and there was no interaction with the music unless I was at a long stoplight. Anyway, I thought I was Hackerman. LOL

Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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Circa 2001 or so, I got a portable CD player for Christmas that could also play MP3s, which was just about the coolest thing ever at the time. Now instead of the normal 12-13 songs a CD could hold when converted to WAV, I could hold 100-200 songs in mp3 form on a 700mb CD burned as a data disc rather than an audio disc. This was then supplemented in the car with a cassette tape adapter that included an audio jack. [0…

Reminds me of one of my first webpages I created that had links to online radio stations by genres circa 2005. I even searched godaddy to see if i could buy pandora.com for a name for it and then reached out to them saying i wanted that name and got a response back; very early for them.

My online radio webpage (button links for different genres aligned left to right to easily click when driving with the microsoft player above the links) worked great through my Microsoft Treo phone which I too connected my Treo phone to stereo via a cassette tape adapter. Used a cassette tape adapter from 2005 to 2016 in different cars until that 2016 car stereo had built in bluetooth.

Re: The MP3mobile (1998)

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I'm the only one still listening mp3s? I have a sandisk mp3 player (size similar to the classic ipod shuffle) and I use yandex to get the mp3s. And I transferred all my old CDs to mp3 format as well.

I don't use my smartphone to listen to music because it's too big/heavy (running with it is so uncomfortable).

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