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Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

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>It is affecting the f-droid users Wow, I didn't know play 'protect' could do that.

Google has root on your Android phone, they can technically do anything they want. The only practical thing stopping them is their own scruples, for whatever that may be worth, or bad press. Same is true for Apple. (With one marrow exclusion for those who installed a "de-googled" Android variant and run no Google services.)

Or GrapheneOS with Sandboxed Play Services running as regular user apps.

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#12

Still seems to be present on my phone. I love that little app. It's so dang useful to be able to wirelessly copy files from my pc to my phone and vice versa. I previously tried a sftp client on android (terminus?) to no avail. Edit: I installed via the play store, I see many folks have installed it via fdroid but I'm not sure why.

Still can't create a temporary ad hoc wireless network to transfer files directly between devices. If they did that it would be on par with airdrop

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#13
post #7

>It is affecting the f-droid users Wow, I didn't know play 'protect' could do that.

Google has root on your Android phone, they can technically do anything they want. The only practical thing stopping them is their own scruples, for whatever that may be worth, or bad press. Same is true for Apple. (With one marrow exclusion for those who installed a "de-googled" Android variant and run no Google services.)

> "de-googled" Android variant and run no Google services

The only way to fly!

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#16
I turned off play protect when it marked an app as malware probably because it violated their play store guidelines and not because it was malicious.

There is no way to permanently tell it that an app is not in fact malicous and it will keep asking you to remove it.

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#17
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has root on your Android phone, they can technically do anything they want. The only practical thing stopping them is their own scruples, for whatever that may be worth, or bad press. Same is true for Apple. (With one marrow exclusion for those who installed a "de-googled" Android variant and run no Google services.)

Or GrapheneOS with Sandboxed Play Services running as regular user apps.

They can still do a lot. I'd much rather use software I can inspect to talk to the services I really need (firebase push) and replace the ones I can (like location). MicroG is great for that It can even fake some of the more basic safetynet attestation crap and during Covid they made their own version of the Bluetooth thing. Marvin the dev is a great guy.

I don't know why people hate on MicroG so much. Grapheneos devs foam at the mouth when you mention it and in the lineageos irc channel you get Insta kicked when you mention it.

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#18

If you can stomach the compromises this is the way: https://lineage.microg.org/ It's a never ending battle to access Play store apps with Google regularly breaking Aurora Store Nightly, but some of us manage.

Yeah Aurora is heavily throttled right now ('this account is rate limited'). Still, I use it because I don't want a Google account on my phone.

The good thing about MicroG is that you can replace some Google stuff with better ones like a local location DB. It's also much lighter because it doesn't spend 90% of its processing time trying to spy on you. Its code is actually written to do stuff on your behalf as the user, not Google's.

Sandboxing real Google Play does stop it from being able to do some of the spying but not all, and it doesn't stop it from trying and wasting battery power.

The only thing I really need from Google is the push messaging because most app services simply don't integrate with anything else :(

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#19
This is an interesting exhibit as KDE Connect is an example of a powerful app. Powerful apps that do non-trivial things are needed to extract the potential of these wonderful devices. But they sail too close to the wind for the gatekeepers that rather keep them dumb devices locked and "safe".

Over time this is going to stiffle innovation big time.

Re: Has Play Protect removed KDE Connect from your phone? Let us know

#20
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has root on your Android phone, they can technically do anything they want. The only practical thing stopping them is their own scruples, for whatever that may be worth, or bad press. Same is true for Apple. (With one marrow exclusion for those who installed a "de-googled" Android variant and run no Google services.)

Or GrapheneOS with Sandboxed Play Services running as regular user apps.

No one should use graphene.
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